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	<title>Comments on: Jeffrey Goldberg was a Follower of Meir Kahane</title>
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		<title>By: Jim Wilkinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Wilkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 02:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Christian, this conversation reminds me of Hannah and Her Sisters.  And that&#039;s not a bad thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Christian, this conversation reminds me of Hannah and Her Sisters.  And that&#8217;s not a bad thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Wain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benjamin Wain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 01:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post is very useful for me, much appreciated!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post is very useful for me, much appreciated!</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph Seliger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralph Seliger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 20:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly, &quot;subinsky&quot; has a point here.  There is something unseemly about tarring Jeffrey Goldberg today for his youthful flirtation with Kahane.  It is also true that he has written of being inspired by being a camper in the left-wing Hashomer Hatzair summer camp of Shomria, in Upstate New York. And his book, &quot;Prisoners,&quot; has a thoughtful, tolerant tone regarding Palestinians that is not credited here. 

I know from personal experience that Mr. Silverstein likes to call people names rather than engage in respectful discussion. In my case, he&#039;s damned me as (horrors) a &quot;lib-Zionist.&quot; I have no idea what kind of &quot;Zionist&quot; this makes Silverstein.

By the way, I attended the panel at that J Street conference that Silverstein mentions and was apparently damned by Goldberg.  It struck me as peculiar that while being hosted and fed lunch courtesy of J Street, the only panelist who actually supported J Street was the Palestinian-American activist, comedian and radio personality, Ray Hanania. 

I don&#039;t always agree with Goldberg, but I know that he&#039;s something of a centrist today with liberal-left leanings. On Israel and the Palestinians, he is clearly in favor of a two-state solution and opposes the expansion of West Bank settlements. But he also vociferously defends Israel and Zionism against what he regards as unfair criticism.  My guess is that he&#039;s criticized Silverstein for something or other and thereby earned the latter&#039;s undying enmity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly, &#8220;subinsky&#8221; has a point here.  There is something unseemly about tarring Jeffrey Goldberg today for his youthful flirtation with Kahane.  It is also true that he has written of being inspired by being a camper in the left-wing Hashomer Hatzair summer camp of Shomria, in Upstate New York. And his book, &#8220;Prisoners,&#8221; has a thoughtful, tolerant tone regarding Palestinians that is not credited here. </p>
<p>I know from personal experience that Mr. Silverstein likes to call people names rather than engage in respectful discussion. In my case, he&#8217;s damned me as (horrors) a &#8220;lib-Zionist.&#8221; I have no idea what kind of &#8220;Zionist&#8221; this makes Silverstein.</p>
<p>By the way, I attended the panel at that J Street conference that Silverstein mentions and was apparently damned by Goldberg.  It struck me as peculiar that while being hosted and fed lunch courtesy of J Street, the only panelist who actually supported J Street was the Palestinian-American activist, comedian and radio personality, Ray Hanania. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t always agree with Goldberg, but I know that he&#8217;s something of a centrist today with liberal-left leanings. On Israel and the Palestinians, he is clearly in favor of a two-state solution and opposes the expansion of West Bank settlements. But he also vociferously defends Israel and Zionism against what he regards as unfair criticism.  My guess is that he&#8217;s criticized Silverstein for something or other and thereby earned the latter&#8217;s undying enmity.</p>
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		<title>By: subinsky</title>
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		<dc:creator>subinsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 00:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good, sammy. you deal with that MondoWeiss goon. A loser nut such as Belmont deserves you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good, sammy. you deal with that MondoWeiss goon. A loser nut such as Belmont deserves you.</p>
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		<title>By: subinsky</title>
		<link>https://www.tikkun.org/tikkundaily/2012/11/05/jeffrey-goldberg-was-meir-kahane-hasid/comment-page-1/#comment-110530</link>
		<dc:creator>subinsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 00:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good, sammy. you deal with that MondoWeiss goon. A loser nut such as Belmont deserves you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good, sammy. you deal with that MondoWeiss goon. A loser nut such as Belmont deserves you.</p>
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		<title>By: sammy</title>
		<link>https://www.tikkun.org/tikkundaily/2012/11/05/jeffrey-goldberg-was-meir-kahane-hasid/comment-page-1/#comment-110526</link>
		<dc:creator>sammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 23:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What crimes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What crimes?</p>
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		<title>By: subinsky</title>
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		<dc:creator>subinsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 20:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this type of trash writing from Silverstein, where he attempts to call Goldberg a &quot;follower&quot; of Kahane because he once, as a kid, read a bbok and gave consideration to some of the stuff in it, serves to demonstrate why Silverstein is widely regarded by left-wing folks as a fool and a unworthy of serious consideration</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this type of trash writing from Silverstein, where he attempts to call Goldberg a &#8220;follower&#8221; of Kahane because he once, as a kid, read a bbok and gave consideration to some of the stuff in it, serves to demonstrate why Silverstein is widely regarded by left-wing folks as a fool and a unworthy of serious consideration</p>
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		<title>By: pabelmont</title>
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		<dc:creator>pabelmont</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 15:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard Silverstein tells us the he (and Jerry Haber) are Zionists -- albeit Zionists who criticize elements of Israeli practice and philosophy. I&#039;ve often wondered what on earth I mean when I say, as I sometimes do, that I am not anti-Israel but only condemnatory of its crimes. Of course, most people will tell you that they condemn crimes. 

With Israel, the question is  [1] whether it can exist independent of its past crimes (as I think of its armed explosion into being, its 1945-48 usurpation of Palestine) and [2] whether it can shake its mental-set of the need and correctness of perpetual violence against its neighbors and thereby somehow exist without continuing to newer crimes (such as the post 1948 attacks on Egypt, Gaza, Syria, and Lebanon, threatened attacks on Iran, the settlements, the siege of Gaza, the unfair taking of Palestine&#039;s water). If the freely-chosen violence Israel&#039;s birth has coalesced into a psychology that requires and accepts perpetual (criminal) violence, then my saying that I can accept Israel apart from its crimes is rather vacuous.  

I wonder where Silverstein and Haber stand on these points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard Silverstein tells us the he (and Jerry Haber) are Zionists &#8212; albeit Zionists who criticize elements of Israeli practice and philosophy. I&#8217;ve often wondered what on earth I mean when I say, as I sometimes do, that I am not anti-Israel but only condemnatory of its crimes. Of course, most people will tell you that they condemn crimes. </p>
<p>With Israel, the question is  [1] whether it can exist independent of its past crimes (as I think of its armed explosion into being, its 1945-48 usurpation of Palestine) and [2] whether it can shake its mental-set of the need and correctness of perpetual violence against its neighbors and thereby somehow exist without continuing to newer crimes (such as the post 1948 attacks on Egypt, Gaza, Syria, and Lebanon, threatened attacks on Iran, the settlements, the siege of Gaza, the unfair taking of Palestine&#8217;s water). If the freely-chosen violence Israel&#8217;s birth has coalesced into a psychology that requires and accepts perpetual (criminal) violence, then my saying that I can accept Israel apart from its crimes is rather vacuous.  </p>
<p>I wonder where Silverstein and Haber stand on these points.</p>
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