Dershowitz and Yeshiva University Diss President Carter & the USA

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Maybe I’m old school. But I was brought up to be grateful to the United States for being the best and safest home Jews have ever had.
My grandparents were immigrants who knew how lucky they were that they escaped Europe back at the beginning of the 20th century especially after their siblings, and their siblings’ families who stayed behind, died in the Nazi death camps (one survived and made it to Israel after the war).
My parents were typical Americans of the World War II era. They loved this country, they loved Roosevelt and although Israel played a big part in their lives, this was their country just like English was their language and Judaism was their faith.
How patriotic were they? My dad taught me the presidents in order when I was 9. I did the same with my kids and now with my grand kids.
In fact, during the 2012 election, my then four year old grandson asked what we would do if Mitt Romney won “because we aren’t for him.” I told him that he’d be our president just like President Obama.” He was reassured. He wants to like the president.
In our family, we respect the institutions of our country, including the presidency, even if we didn’t vote for the particular holder of the office. My wife’s family was even more patriotic. Her parents survived the Holocaust and she was born in a Jewish refugee camp in Germany. Criticize America and my father-in-law would say, “go to Stalin then.” No matter Stalin was long dead!
In other words, we are nothing like Alan Dershowitz.
I just read that the Harvard law professor is having an hysterical fit because Yeshiva University’s Cardozo Law school is presenting an award to former president, Jimmy Carter. Yeshiva is a Jewish university, as is Brandeis, about which Dershowitz also wept and gnashed molars when it invited Carter to speak.
Dershowitz told Ha’aretz why the former president should not speak at Jewish schools:

He cited a long list of Carter’s offenses, saying that the former U.S. President “stood idly by” during the Pol Pot massacre in Cambodia, “never met a terrorist he didn’t like”, was beholden to Saudi Arabia and bore “partial responsibility” for the carnage of the second intifada because he “encouraged” Yasser Arafat at Camp David not to reach a peace deal.

And then, in the egomaniacal style that has made him the The Donald of lawyers, he demanded that “someone like myself” speak along side the former president. He said that Carter “should be made to regret that he ever agreed to accept the award.”
Forget the part about Pol Pot. Dershowitz, as everyone knows, is only concerned about Carter’s criticism of Israel and, in particular, about Carter’s accurate description of conditions on the West Bank (not in Israel itself) as like “apartheid.” Criticizing Israel is verboten in Dersh’s world. And that is why he hates Carter. Israel is Dershowitz’s City On The Hill, shining perfection.
That is why Dershowitz supports all prime ministers of Israel. He may like some more than others but he believes that Israel and its leaders, unlike the United States and its leaders, must be respected. You know, he feels about Israel the way we feel about the United States. (Imagine. This guy teaches about the United States Constitution at Harvard whose students apparently are more tolerant of bigoted fools than they were in the 1960’s).
The president of Yeshiva University, a guy named Richard Joel, is almost as bad. He defends the invitation to Carter but then falls all over himself apologizing.

At the core of Yeshiva University¹s expressed mission and sacred mandate stands an unwavering and unapologetic commitment to the legitimacy, safety, and security of the State of Israel,” Joel wrote. “President Carter’s presence at Cardozo in no way represents a university position on his views, nor does it indicate the slightest change in our steadfastly pro-Israel stance.

Joel is not appreciative that a former president is honoring Yeshiva with his presence because the primary mission of his university is “unapologetic commitment” to Israel. Really. I’m sure the students who attend Yeshiva to become respected doctors, lawyers, teachers and rabbis in America might not see it that way. But Joel is a Jewish organizational professional not any kind of educator; defending Israeli policies is his mission along with raising big bucks from lobby-affiliated donors.
The good news is that Dershowitz and Joel represent a tiny fraction of Jewish Americans. To say that Jews are loyal Americans is almost embarrassing. Of course, we are. But we are also a tiny minority and, historically, a vulnerable one. Dershowitz and Joel increase our vulnerability by sending out the message that we aren’t Americans at all, that our loyalty is not to this country but to Israel. That may be true about them, just not the rest of us. (Note: Dershowitz hates me for calling people like him and Joel Israel Firsters. Uh, ok.)
It is also worth noting that no president has done as much for Israel as Carter who saved countless Israeli lives by personally negotiating the Israeli-Egyptian peace treaty. How many Israeli parents have their son, how many kids their fathers, how many wives their husbands thanks to Carter?
After all, just five years before Carter produced Israeli-Egyptian peace, 2800 Israeli boys were killed in the Yom Kippur War. But, thanks to Carter, not a single Israeli has died fighting Egypt since.
Is that what really offends Dershowitz? Could it be that the great professor wants to see Israel embattled forever? Is that why he hates Carter? Does he prefer his Israelis as martyrs, to be used as fodder in his never ending war against Muslims and Arabs.
Alan Dershowitz is appalling.
NOTE TO THE SECRET SERVICE: Some alumni of Yeshiva University have issued physical threats against the former President.

Enraged alumni have threatened to physically block Jimmy Carter from entering Yeshiva University’s Cardozo School of Law, where he is due to receive a peace award on April 10.
Daniel Rubin, 62, said about a dozen former alumni are planning an act of civil disobedience to prevent Carter, a harsh critic of Israeli policies on the occupied West Bank, from picking up the International Advocate for Peace Award, given annually by Cardozo’s Journal of Conflict Resolution.
Rubin said former alumni would use their knowledge of the building layout to outmaneuver any attempts to stop them.
“Mr. Carter ain’t going to get anywhere,” Rubin said.

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  1. Now you’re questioning the loyalties of Richard Joel and Alan Dershowitz to the US. […] Do you ever question the loyalty of any of the posters here, who routinely spit out anti American material
    Carter, for the record, did not initiate negotiations between Egypt and Israel. He did not persuade Sadat and Begin to meet. He helped finish off the deal, but prior to that he had no Middle East policy
    Carter, in a book labeled Israel an Apartheid sate when it is not even close to being one. Carter is falling under the label of anti Semite by making such accessions. Carter later backed off.
    […] There is only one Jewish state. Stop giving comfort to its enemies

    • Two things Sammy. You have to understand that […] Rosenberg is a one state guy. Which means Syria. Which means Libya, which means Lebanon. Which means a second holocaust. And all of these know that. Second, it never ceases to amaze me how Carter somehow gets credit got the the credit for the treaty. Sometimes a little for Sadat. Begin, never.

  2. I thought I was the only one who could name the Presidents in order at age 9. I love the term “Israel Firster” and use it whenever I can. If the shoe fits…. One thing puzzles me. Mr. Rubin refers to “former alumni.” What exactly is that? I thought one you were an alumnus you were always an alumnus. Did these people burn their diplomas or say they are no longer graduates of Yeshiva? They could REALLY make a statement if they quit their jobs that require a degree.

    • Jim,
      Do you love the terms Yid, Kike, Shylock or Hook Nose as well? Do yo tell Korean Americans concerned about their families in South Korea that they are Korea Firsters?

      • Yes, they are Korea Firsters if they support every S. Korean administration and every position of S. Korea without criticism or qualms. Yes , Korea Firsters if they owe loyalty to S. Korea even when US interests run counter to S. Korean interests. That’s the analogy in full bloom.

        • I am sure Hitler would have been glad to coin that label. I am guessing that jews have given the US far more loyalty than you

  3. There is no surprise, that Israel firsters are on the attack again. They are programed as an attack dogs. They know what to do when they are unleashed on those who are considered the intruders on the false image of the purity of Israel’s reputation. Israel does no wrong. No one is allowed to criticize it. And thats my friends is what discredits Dershowitz and his likes almost always. The facts and the truth are becoming more known by all, day by day, and those Hasbara lies, have the feet knocked off from under them. It’s just a matter of time, that is why they are panicking . If you don’t like to be exposed, don’t do the things(crimes) that you don’t wish to have then been exposed. But you can’t stop all people from telling the truth about what they see, and can judge. Again, thanks Mr. Rosenberg for telling it like it is!

    • Monir,
      Do you also call Israel Firsters Yids, Kikes and hook nosed shylocks? How upset are yo that we could be on the brink of war to defend South Korea?
      Do you call Palestinian activitists at UC Berkley Palestinian Firsters?I mean they think that the Palestinians can do no wrong

    • Monir, I thought about why I’m so passionate about Israel-Palestine and apart from my thirst for the sweet waters of justice, I just hate bullies. And I have, ever since I went to grade school. I still wish somebody would define what “former alumni” means, though.

      • Jim, Justice is very sweet. So I am with you on that, and on most the things you said previously. As you sound like you are seeking balance and justice for all. Bullies, are not very likable, but please try not to hate them. Hate is a very destructive feeling. Most bullies are considered handicapped, because they can’t express their feelings and emotions in a civilized and mature manner, so they revert to insults and violence. Don’t trouble yourself about the former Alumni, I have a feeling it could be a mistake, or maybe you know who they could be! Dershowitz and Rubin, seem to over kill in showing their loyalty to Israel, so they lose credibility, and that have happened a while ago. The denial of issues that are wrong with Israel and it’s handling of the Palestinians rights, is like one burying their head in the sand while the whole world is watching and you telling them, I see everything!

  4. Sammy, I don’t know where you live, but I think you would be eligible for a medical marijuana card in California. I live in Colorado, where we just legalized recreational pot.
    Palestinian self-determination is not in conflict with my goal of an America with greater social, political and economic justice. You may call me an American Firster because I believe Americans who are not billionaires should have the same rights and power as those who are.

    • Jim,
      Most Israelis want to of most of the West Bank. Here’s the thing, the Palestinians do not have one head One wants negotiations, but the still fail to recognize Israel as a Jewish state. The other head juts wants to lob rockets into Israel and is waiting for the opportunity to inflict even more pain.
      Don’t forget the iran and Hezbollah factor. Don’t doubt for a second what they see as the end game
      Most israelis also want security along with peace. Demanding the end of occupation without anything isreali in exchange only creates more pain. You have 3 misconceptions about this conflicts
      1. Peace requires unilateral withdraw from all occupied territory
      2, This is a conflict of oppressor vs oppressed. It is not that. It is a fight over a piece of real estate.
      3. The Palestinians receive hundreds of millions of $ in US aid yet you will not criticize the policies of a recipient of this money.
      Finally the term “israel Firster” is disturbing and insulting. This is a nation of immigrants and there are many US citizens with duel loyalties. I suggest an apology is in order.

      • Sammy, I have thought this would make a good bumper sticker and therefore it’s simple: It’s the settlements, stupid! Monir, I’m sure you wouldn’t approve of “stupid,” but I’m paraphrasing “It’s the economy, stupid.” I do try not to hate bullies. Dr. Dershowitz is a good example of how they overplay their hand.

      • “…waiting for the opportunity to inflict more pain”? This really beggars the imagination. Here it is Israeli state policy to destroy Palestinian identity and patrimony and to steal Pal property and rights as much as possible, and you talk about Israeli “pain”/ Israel launches pain via F-16’s, tanks, modern infantry, and attack helicopters against a largely civilian society armed with rocks and pathetic homemade rockets. And Israel keeps changing the terms of the “peace process” (the official cover for theft): The demand to recognize a “Jewish” state was introduced by Netanyahu to make any meaningful discussion utterly impossible and everyone knows it. And this despite the 20% of Israel that is not Jewish and which Zionists trot out whenever assailed as non-democratic. The more you, Sammy, provide feedback, the better the anti-Zionist case becomes. So keep on, keeping on.

  5. Sammy, The answer to your first question is, No! I don’t wish to use slander or derogatory names to express my thoughts. 2nd. Q. If we go to war, I will be saddened for all those people who would suffer, and for the damage that will be caused, then for the wasted money and resources, that we could use in this world where its more needed. I normally would look at the substance of any ones argument and would stay away from labels. I only used Israeli Firsters, as a continuation to the articles nature(writer). Palestinian defenders, right or wrong is not a good thing neither. We can’t disregard, the truth, honesty, justice,ethics and fairness in our judgement. Because our Palestinianess, or Jewishness want to take over. That what make situation dangerous,and would create mistrust, as we have for 65 years.
    As to your last question, Yes, I am a Palestinian American, and I don’t subscribe to firster or not, as I have mentioned above. Labeling, is avery close neighbor of racism. You know, there is plenty of that and I don’t need to be part of, nor do you. Be human and be fair,is my policy.

    • If you want Jews to question israeli policies, you have to do so publicly here. That means turning on the leaders of Hamas and some of the members of the Palestinian Authority. 65 years and the Palestinians have missed a load of opportunities to make peace starting in 1948.
      My suggestion for peace: I federated Palestinian-Jordanin state. It would serve the best interests of the Palestinians. the majority of Jordan’s population’s now Palestinian.

      • Israel never actually wanted peace. The proof is in the pudding. With the assault on Palestinian in the OTs, it became clear that Zionism all along sought the whole of Palestine and a solution for the Palestinian problem. The whole history up to that point became unquestionably the history of greedy, craven thugs seeking property that is not theirs and little else. In a way, I am thankful for the settlers removing any residual ambiguity about Israel and Zionism. The thugs have used fear, military aggression, sayanim worldwide to ascend finally to power and this is just the beginning. In the face of lawless thugs, the civilized world of today has to recoil in disgust, so the polarization will continue. American Jews will increasingly line up against Zionists and the racists will fight to the last man for their pernicious “chosen ness”, the self-election at the heart of Zionism and at the heart of Jewish history.

        • Davey,
          You sound lie such a parrot. You are so upset that Israel is demanding a recognition as a Jewish state while demanding a PALESTINIAN STATE. Is a Jewish state a problem for you.Israel declared itself a Jewish state or a HOMELAND for the Jews. You know, the ones who have roots the region? You know, the ones Europeans tried oh so hard to exterminate and the ones who were forced out of Arab countries?
          There is a Hashemite state in Jordan and a United Arab republic in Egypt. There is also an Islamic republic in iran. But you object to a JEWISH State, where the Muslim, Christian and Druse minorities have FULL rights.
          The Palestinians object to the recognition of a JEWISH STATE because it will spell the END of any claims for the right of return and any claims in pre 67 Israel.
          There is a reason for a Jewish state where Jews can feel at home, rather be at the mercu of you and your anti Semitic friends.

  6. Your suggestion for peace is appalling ! Unloading the result of Israel’s crimes against the Palestinians on the next door neighbors yard,is another crime to cover the first. Why do you poses such a double standard in this situation? Jews coming from all over the world, displacing Palestinians ,whom have been born there for at least generations upon generations with multiple faiths(Muslims,Christians and Jews) to make room for all those( Russians,Americans, germans, polish..etc..etc. ) whom never put a foot in that land. How would you like it if someone came to your house, kicked you and your family out, under the claim that 120, or 3500 years ago, their father told them that house, his grand parents told his grand parents that they have a God who assigned that house to them? Except nobody know nor believes in that so claimed King. And when some of you resisted, few got shot, few were locked in the basement, few ran away. Then one day when you were able to talk to your house invaders,they said; why don’t you go live with the neighbors, its better for you like that? I hope your hypocrisy and double standard make sense to somebody, because it does not to decent human beings who wish to follow some logic,justice and respect the rights of humans and the International law. You seem to divert the issues to other issues instead of realistically think about them and face them with some decency and honor. Israel can’t keep blaming every body for its own created crimes against others, and want them to bear the responsibility. I have noticed that most Israel defenders site other criminal actions by others to legitimize israel’s crimes. That does not work this way. This is not a child’s game. Those are people’s lives and well being. Simpler than that, I can’t say it !

    • Oh my, the anti Semistims alwasy shows its face here.
      1. There has been a continuous presence in present day Israel for thousands of years
      2. Jewish roots emerged for that region.
      3. It is a proven fact that many of those so called Palestinians migrated to the British mandated region has work opportunities emerged with a developing economy.
      4. The original mandate known as Palestine included present day Jordan. There was an initial partion in 1922. Read your history.
      5. The majority of present day Jordan’s population is now Palestinian
      6. I may have had the idea if a federated Jordanian Palestinian state, but Abbas broght this idea juts a few months ago.
      7. Consider this:
      http://news.yahoo.com/palestinian-leader-arabs-erred-1947-partition-190421903.html
      The Palestinian president, in a remarkable assessment delivered on Israeli TV, said Friday the Arab world erred in rejecting the United Nations’ 1947 plan to partition Palestine into a Palestinian and a Jewish state.
      The Palestinian and Arab refusal to accept a U.N. plan to partition the then-British-controlled mandate of Palestine sparked widespread fighting, then Arab military intervention after Israel declared independence the following year. The Arabs lost the war.”
      8. We always here about Israel crimes. When Israel soldier touched a Palestinian, the UN will pass 6 resolutions about. Hamas can launch rockets and terrorize their own people and the UN sit quiet. 90,000 Syrians can be slaughtered and the UN will remain silent.
      I can go on and ona on and on. You, on ye other hand take you ideas for an overused template.

      • 1. There has been a continual “presence” of other peoples in the region for thousands of years as well, in much larger numbers.
        (Incidentally, if the land was so important to Jews, why did it take two thousand years to mount a return? Jews ended up in good numbers all over the globe, but no sustained effort at “return.” This return was invented by the Zionists.)
        2. Jewish roots emerged from several locales in fact. Biblical authority is not historical authority. Genetics alone traces Jewishness to Central Asia. The link between modern Jewry and ancient Hebrews is scientifically tenuous at best and everyone knows it.
        3. It has been categorically DISPROVED that the presence of Arab peoples in Palestine is traceable to immigration into Mandate Palestine. That idea was fabricated by Joan Peters in her widely discredited book on the subject. Even the publisher disowned Peters and the false academic content she used. Big embarrassment this Peters!
        4. The British Mandate of Palestine was the residual after Jordan became incorporated by the British. Your point has no significance as Palestinians still lived in Palestine.
        5. Palestinians, the natives of Palestine, were “cleansed” from Palestine in ’48 and thereafter. Many of these refugee camps were situated in what was then Jordan and Palestinians ended up there, thanks to Zionism. You cannot conclude that such displaced persons are — and should be — Jordanians. Were this so, the word “refugee” would be meaningless.
        6. Abbas is the functional equivalent of the Judenrats of the ghettos created by Nazis in the East. The PA is the servile arm of the conquering power and nothing else.
        7. It was not the refusal of Palestinians to accept partition that sparked fighting but the acceptance of partition by the Jews, the interlopers in the region. Why should Palestinians accept the slicing off of 55% of their home for an ersatz nation of immigrants from Europe and elsewhere. It was not a “mistake” but resistance to theft by others.
        8. Israel launched a vicious campaign of extermination against Palestinians and continued it for decades and decades, “touching” thousands of Palestinian men, women and children, the great majority of them not combatants at all. Israel assaults these virtually unarmed people with a modern army of F-16’s, tanks, attack helicopters and trained army. When the assaulted push back against occupation and oppression, as they have every right to do, they fling stones and homemade rockets. The losses in property and lives is utterly incommensurate between Palestinians and Israelis. Indeed, it is this disparity and long history that creates the foundation for charges of CRIMINAL behavior against Israel, it’s top brass current and past, not just violations of international law and the laws of war or human rights, but criminal culpability by individual Israelis.
        Lastly, you do go on and on with discredited and fraudulent ideas to excuse the vicious racism of Israel, the affliction of “chosen ness” by a people through self-election, no less. History demonstrates that the power politics driving Israel will have the day but that Justice will prevail in the end. Zionism is morally bankrupt and there is no getting around the consequences of that.

        • Davey waht a cracker?
          The parrot continues.
          1.
          Davey
          “if the land was so important to Jews, why did it take two thousand years to mount a return? Jews ended up in good numbers all over the globe, but no sustained effort at “return.” This return was invented by the Zionists.)”
          I suggets you pick up a history book for once
          2. “Jewish roots emerged from several locales in fact. Biblical authority is not historical authority. Genetics alone traces Jewishness to Central Asia. The link between modern Jewry and ancient Hebrews is scientifically tenuous at best and everyone knows it.”
          So you even dispute the Jews are an ethnic group rooted in one area. What revisionist anti Semitic source to your site?
          3. It really has not.
          http://www.meforum.org/522/the-smoking-gun-arab-immigration-into-palestine
          4. Jordan now has a majority Palestinian population
          5. If the Palestinians were “cleansed”, how are there 1 million Arab Israeli cities within pre 67 Israel. Israel did a horrible job at ethnic cleansing, The Arabs were much better expelling the Jewish populations.Of course we know what the Nazis did
          6. Herr Davey: ” Abbas is the functional equivalent of the Judenrats of the ghettos created by Nazis in the East. The PA is the servile arm of the conquering power and nothing else.”
          Are you comparing Israel to Nazi Germany? Is that what you’re doing? is that your bottom line. Thanks for revealing that
          7. “It was not the refusal of Palestinians to accept partition that sparked fighting but the acceptance of partition by the Jews, the interlopers in the region. Why should Palestinians accept the slicing off of 55% of their home for an ersatz nation of immigrants from Europe and elsewhere. It was not a “mistake” but resistance to theft by others.”
          Even Abbas and a form Fatah terrorist don’t say this. Abass accepts responsibility for rejecting partition
          8. Davey:” Israel launched a vicious campaign of extermination against Palestinians and continued it for decades and decades”
          Wow! Is that why the Palestinian population has grown by several times. What are the numbers? Come on. Let’s see you spit out lies. Palestinians have had far worse losses in the hands of neighboring Arab states
          THANK GOD WE HAVE A FREE STATE OF ISRAEL SO WE WIL NEVER BE VICTIMS OF VICOUS ANTI SEMITES WHO USE REVISIONIST HISTORY TO CREAT HATRED.
          You forgot to sign off with a salute to Hitler, and I don’r say that lightly

  7. Monir, respectfully your comments remind me of the old admonition, “Never try to teach a pig to whistle. You will waste your time and annoy the pig.” I’m sorry it uses the reference to a member of the swine family, so please substitute the domesticated animal of your choice. As a cat lover, cat works for me. I do like to argue with people whose opinions I can never change, so I do relate. The world needs a lot more Monirs.

  8. Davey Wavey and Jim Wilkenson
    White you moan about Palestinians being victims of what ever, some 90,000 have be slaughtered in Syria. But they are an exotic people so in your eyes it is perfectly acceptable.

  9. Jerry, I wasn’t aware that I was “moaning.” Please cite your source. The reference to teaching the animal of your choice not to whistle was meant for your. I’m not sure what Syria has to do with President Carter and Yeshiva University but it has a Hell of a lot to do with your feeling of self-righteousness. Hope you feel better. “What ever” is a nice euphemism for genocide.

  10. Jim, his s your quote
    “Jim Wilkinson
    April 11, 2013 at 6:38 am
    Monir, I thought about why I’m so passionate about Israel-Palestine and apart from my thirst for the sweet waters of justice, I just hate bullies. And I have, ever since I went to grade school. I still wish somebody would define what “former alumni” means, though”
    I guess you passionate about Syria or about justice for Tibetans is muted more my our anti Semitism. What you are sucked into is the sweet water of a pack of lies about the Palestinian conflict. I’m afraid the conflict is a bit too complex for you can grasp. There is far more gray areas that you are blind to. I suggest you start with Dr. Seuss.

    • Jerry, I wear ad hominum attacks as badges of honor. If you hate me, then I know I am communicating the truth. In the tradition of Harry Truman who said, “People say I give them Hell but I just give them the truth and they think it’s Hell.”

        • BTW JIM, I assuem you live in the US. You have no stake in the conflict, so you would not benefit of suffer the consequences of any decision made in regard to israel’s future. Today is memorial day in Israel, a place where they value their lost loved ones rather than using them as props in a propaganda war like the Palestinians like to do.

  11. 1. In 1948 te Palestinians rejected partition, the Arab Legion invaded and lost. Jordan took control of the West Bank and East Jerusalem and annexed them both in 1952. Gaza was under military occupation by Egypt. There were no protests on the part of the Palestinians. This is what could gave become a Palestinian state.
    2. Egypt and Syria inflamed hostilities in 1967 by leveling threats, blocking water passages and mobilizing its armies. By military agreement, Jordan is pulled into the war and loses the West Bank and Jerusalem. Egypt finally came ot terms with Israel, the Palestinians still wanted the whole pie.
    3. Arafat walked away from a substantial deal for peace in 2000 and started a terror war, allowing for Israeli buses, cafes and holiday celebrations. A wall is built on or close to he green Line, and the Palestinians whine.
    Get the pattern here.
    BTW, hundreds of thousands of Jews were EXPELLED from Arab countries.Your silence is noted.

    • Most of the settlements skirt the so called Green Line or are really Jerusalem neighborhoods. I would not be opposed to a shared capital, but I do oppose dividing a city tat was never divided prior to 1948.

  12. What better way to honor the victims of violence in Israel, than to lash out in hate against a fellow man. Actually I support the right of self-determination for all occupied people. Western Sahara, Kashmir and Tibet, to name a few. I forgot who said, “All wars are civil because all men are brothers.” Shalom.

  13. I understand MJ’s criticism of Dershowitz. But I don’t understand his attack on Yeshiva University’s president Richard Joel. He said nothing disrespectful of Pres. Carter; he was simply reassuring the legions of critics of Carter in the Yeshiva University community that Yeshiva is steadfast in its basic support for Israel.
    This was not a policy pronouncement, but rather a statement of values. I am probably closer in my view of the situation in the West Bank to Carter than to Joel, but I have no problem saying (like Joel) that I am “pro-Israel,” in terms of concern for Israel’s well-being.

  14. When did Tikkun Magazine become so violently ant-Semitic, or did it actually start out that way?
    Also, I suggest that your writers get their facts straight about Israel, Jews, their enemies, history, and not just make up stuff as they go along.

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