Is Christopher Hitchens a Religious Apologist?
by: Be Scofield on May 29th, 2011 | 13 Comments »
The popular atheist writer/blogger Greta Christina calls one of Hitchens’ ideas about religion a “terrible argument.”
You know that Christopher Hitchens is not a fan of religion. If you had any doubt you can read his best-selling book God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything, watch him debate leading Christian and religious theologians (on one occasion four of them at a time) or read any of the numerous articles he’s written on the subject. Yet, despite his public outcry and comparison of religion to child abuse and labeling it a “menace to society” readers may be surprised to discover that he is actually indifferent to religion as long as it produces good behavior. Shocking I know. Furthermore he’s admitted that he’s not arguing “religion should or ever would die out in the world.”
In God is Not Great Hitchens describes a story of how a Muslim cab driver went to great lengths to return a large sum of money that his wife had left in his cab. When the the cab driver told him that it was his religious duty to return the money and refused a generous reward that Hitchens had offered it seems to have sparked a unique moment of shared humanity for Hitchens with a religious person. In response to the Muslim cab driver’s act of selfless service Hitchens makes a shocking admission, “And if all Muslims conducted themselves like the man who gave up more than a week’s salary in order to do the right thing, I could be quite indifferent to the weird exhortations of the Koran” (p. 188). Hitchens is essentially saying that as long as religion produces good behavior the strange and peculiar commandments, beliefs and ideas are not a problem. He could have said as he has said elsewhere that religion is not needed to do good or to know right from wrong. Or he could have acted on his statement, “I think religion should be treated with ridicule, hatred and contempt, and I claim that right.” But he didn’t. There was no ridicule for the cab driver. Instead, like many of us progressive religious people Hitchens demonstrated tolerance and a level of respect to this religious person and his beliefs.
The irony here is that when religious people make the same arguments as Hitchens they are attacked as religious apologists and face scorn from many in the atheist community. Why the double standard?
Being surprised by Hitchens’ response I asked the popular Alternet.org atheist writer and blogger Gretta Christina to comment on his line of thinking that if religion produced good behavior it’s ok to be indifferent to the “weird exhortations of the Koran” (without telling her it was Hitchens who actually said it). She stated,
It’s a terrible argument. People do act on their beliefs — and when those beliefs are mistaken, the actions are more likely to be problematic. Garbage in, garbage out.
What’s more, the very idea that it makes sense to believe things we have no good reason to think are true, in itself, does harm. It leads people to rely on wishful thinking in other areas of their lives – not just religion. And the more moderate and tolerant versions of faith lend credibility to the more extremist and intolerant versions.
Having watched just about every debate with Hitchens and written extensively about him and the new atheists (see the bottom of this article for links to my work on the subject) I would have initially suspected his thinking would be more along the lines of Christina’s. For certain, Hitchens has advanced many of her same arguments as he’s called the teachings of religion child abuse and has compared even the liberal and humanistic tradition of Unitarianism to rats and vermin. But, the more I listened to him, the more confused I became about what he actually believed about religion.
In his debate with Tony Blair, Hitchens answers the question of what it would take to make a good religion. He states, “It would have to give up all supernatural claims, it would say no you are not to do this under the threat of reward (heaven) or the terror of punishment (hell), no we can’t offer you miracles. Find me the Church that will say forget all that. Faith healing? No.” First, there are many religions and variations of them that already meet this claim such as Buddhism, Taoism, Unitarian Universalism, and progressive Christian, Jewish and Islamic traditions just to name a few. All along Hitchens has incorrectly claimed that “to be religious is to be theist” i.e. to believe in a supernatural god. Not knowing that there are already religions that aren’t based on supernatural claims proves that Hitchens has a very limited understanding of the religious landscape or intentionally lies about his knowledge of it. Second, this is a different requirement than he stated in reference to the Muslim cab driver. In that case all that was required was good behavior. All of the “weird exhortations” i.e. threat of hell, supernatural claims or miracles in the Koran he could be indifferent too so long as people were nice and generous. In the same debate with Blair he stated yet another requirement for religion being acceptable. He said, “As long as you don’t want your religion taught to my children in school, given a government subsidy, imposed on me by violence you are fine by me.” Does this mean he’s ok with a “celestial dictator” (the term he uses for a supernatural god) as long people keep it to themselves? Granted, Hitchens may have different distinctions for what qualifies as a good religion as opposed to one that it is ok to be indifferent to. This deserves further explanation on his part. But, Hitchens gives at least three different reasons for religion getting a pass.
It’s fine if Hitchens wants to provide excuses for religion but he shouldn’t hide from the fact that he is doing so. The major thrust of his work has been to attack all things religion. Only on occasion does he slip in a statement that seems to suggest he’s less of a fundamentalist than he appears. These usually come out when he’s up against a liberal defender of religion like Tony Blair or Chris Hedges. But the remarks generally go unnoticed or are ignored because he’s never made them a recognizable element of his work. If he had, he simply couldn’t have written in the same either/or tone that he has. He’d be forced to confront the reality of what a more nuanced position towards religion would mean.
Hitchens is most likely well aware of the liberal and progressive expressions of religion that already meet his criteria for a “good” religion but he consistently chooses to ignore them and lump them together with the most dogmatic. It serves his purpose well. He also knows that religion inspires millions of people to do good and charitable acts like the Muslim cab driver who returned the money. Yet there is a lack of acknowledgment on Hitchens’ part of the already existing religious expressions that meet his criteria. And furthermore there is virtually no recognition by Hitchens or any new atheist of the long lineage of progressive religious reformers and theologians who have done way more than any atheist to make religion less dogmatic, less reliant upon supernatural claims and more inclusive and tolerant. Why not mention their contributions? Hitchens after all claims to be a “protestant atheist” as he recognizes the benefit of this historical reform movement. Or why not mention the current religious traditions that meet his criteria for being good or in the least worthy of being indifferent to?
I’d like to hear from Hitchens himself on which of the three excuses he’s made for religion is the one he subscribes to. Or perhaps it is a unique combination of them? Apparently, unlike other anti-religious atheists Hitchens doesn’t think religion per se is a danger despite his often contradictory remarks. Otherwise how could he give excuses for it? If he thought it was inherently bad he also wouldn’t be able to claim as he did in his debate with Blair that, “No one was arguing that religion should or would die out of the world. I’ll I’m arguing is that it would be better if there was a great deal more of an outbreak of secularism. We need a great deal less of one and a great deal more of the second.” If religion were truly dangerous why wouldn’t Hitchens want it to die out? What we need more of is not secularism but rather people who are generous, kind and compassionate like the Muslim cab driver regardless of their religious affiliation.
Religion isn’t going anywhere anytime soon so it makes sense for Hitchens and other new atheists to acknowledge and support those progressive religious strains which challenge the dogmatic, fundamentalist and bigoted dimensions of their traditions. If you’re worried that this type of support for liberal or moderate religion may justify the extremes have no fear because the idea is simply fiction.
As a prominent leader amongst atheists Christopher Hitchens has a responsibility and unique opportunity to clarify his stance on religion, especially if he’s willing to admit he’s ok with certain expressions of religion. Doing so could help us get beyond the false good/evil binary that defines so much of current thinking on the subject and lead to genuine dialogue between atheists new and old and the religious.
Be Scofield is a writer, founder of www.godblessthewholeworld.org and a Dr. King scholar. He writes and blogs for Tikkun Magazine and his work has appeared on Alternet.org and Integral World among others. Be is pursuing a Master’s of Divinity in the Unitarian Universalist tradition with a dual certificate in women studies in religion and sacred dance with a concentration in Buddhism.





Very fine piece, Bo. Thanks for highlighting some of the inconsistency.
I’ve always considered that a fundamentalist is a person who believes both that they have the single correct answer to life, the universe, and everything, and that those who have different answers are wrong. Whether their answer is a particular reading of revealed scripture, or that there is no power greater than humanity, or 42 doesn’t matter; it is the absolute conviction of the rightness of a singular answer that defines the fundamentalist.
One of the problems with this approach is that if my answer gets coloured pure white, then the other answers become pure black. So it’s not surprising that Hitchens doesn’t recognize the number of religions that aren’t theistic, don’t involve the supernatural etc. Hitchens is a superb debater and brilliant rhetorician, but an unsophisticated thinker. Sic semper fundamentalist.
I would add that when you are speaking of Christian fundamentalists, it is essential that you include the fact that they believe in the literal truth of the Bible, and will construct the most arcane explanations to get around the many inconsistancies. (One of the great divides between Christianity and Islam is that the former has become distinctly contextual, while the latter remains remarkably literal, hence the importance of learning Arabic.)
The problem is that they can twist those arcane explanations to fit their political agendas. I wish Bart Ehrman would do a book on how his former co-religionists twist the meaning of the Bible, to add to his expositions on Forgery, Censorship, and Copyist errors.
They discard the notion of both contextual meaning and accept only the barest use of metaphor (when Jesus says its a parable,then, its a parable).
In the interests of understanding the passions (and misguidedness) of fundamentalists who Hitchens primarily attacks, I would cite the fact that Marx hit upon an important part when he said that religion was the opiate of the people.
Narcotic drugs have both good and bad effects, The active ingredient in the religious drug is love. If that passion is not tempered by reason and experience, it is totally capable of self-destructive impulses, not to mention impulses destructive to others.
My point is that religion is so powerful as to be dangerous, if not moderated by reason. For Hitchens to be as influential as he is, there has to be a grain of truth in there somewhere.
In an ideal world, there would be no religion. But this is not an ideal world. Religion isn’t going anywhere anytime soon. At least not in our lifetime. So looks like Hitchens is being a realist, hoping for the best outcome out of a bad situation.
I dislike most of religion. I believe that its the biggest hoax in human history, but there is no denying that there is some good that comes out of religion. As long as its not detrimental to society, religion is fine by me. Theists are just like kids who need to believe in their fairy tales.
First off: what a joke as a premise. Hitchens’ a religious apologist? That is quite comical and automatically makes the author lose credibility.
“I’ve always considered that a fundamentalist is a person who believes both that they have the single correct answer to life, the universe, and everything, and that those who have different answers are wrong.”
Peter, I would agree with you on the most part but as an atheist, I can state unequivocally that there is no god, cannot be a god, and has never been evidence for a god. According to your definition, that makes me a “fundamentalist”. Quite in contrast; I simply say, where is the evidence? If one was able to provide one shred of scientific evidence that god existed, I would consider to believe in a deity; but the fact of the matter is that it has not, will not, and cannot because the definition of belief consists of “faith”, faith without evidence.
One can claim a lot of things exist but if you can’t make your hypothesis falsifiable, don’t expect it to have credence by rationalists and scientists. That is the very nature of faith and belief. As the great Christopher Hitchens’ has said, “What can be asserted without proof, can be dismissed without proof”.
This article states that Hitchens said “I think religion should be treated with ridicule, hatred and contempt, and I claim that right.”
I believe Hitchens was talking about treating the religious institutions, specifically their indoctrination practices, not its victims, in this manner.
I think you’ve missed Hitch’s point. http://commonsensecarbon.blogspot.com/2011/05/scofield-gets-wrong-end-of-stick-re.html
You really think that Hitchens has consistently argued “I would be OK with religious dogma as long as religious people are generous?” He wouldn’t be taken seriously in the atheist community if that position even occupied a fraction of his platform. Just look at how Greta Christina responded to his line of thinking.
“He said, “As long as you don’t want your religion taught to my children in school, given a government subsidy, imposed on me by violence you are fine by me.” Does this mean he’s ok with a “celestial dictator” (the term he uses for a supernatural god) as long people keep it to themselves?”
I don’t claim to know but somehow I doubt that is what he meant.
Seems to me that one can interpret another thinkers text and give it – ‘new meaning’, out of context if you will, downright imaginary driven even – rather like the strictures, whosoever they may be.
Very inellectually adn philosophically as well as theologically and theoretically illuminating and exciting piece. It is as as usual for you BO meticulously researched ,nicely referenced and beautifully articulated.
So glad i did not miss this one! Well, who said “consistency is the failing of a small mind” or words to that effect? Though i do not actualkly agree with that premise, actually the whole process of life’s journey is so often messy, chaotic, and wonderfully unrpedictably surprising..and as an avowed and devout religious beliver, which means that for me the presence of G-d is the wellspring of my life, i am happy with the honesty and the inconsistency explored here, of Christopher Hitchens .
Sucgh inconsitency and candor, and spontaneous discovery of the way in whcih religion positively informs lives, makes Chris less of a militant reductionist fundamentalist atheist.
To become a fully developed human being, IMO, is impossible without ideals and beliefs that transcend the pitifully asserted supremecy of self and selfishness.
O f course i mean BE not Bo please forgive my learning disability errors
After reading your article I was left with a feeling of discomfort. I am an atheist and have read and heard a lot of what Mr. Hitchens has said. I felt his words had been misrepresented by you, but could not deny that you had quoted him correctly. Then I realised what caused the discomfort; your bias for forgiving the the ambiguous claims of the religious while at the same time criticising an atheist’s claims also presented ambiguously. For instance, you quote Hitchens: “And if all Muslims conducted themselves like the man who gave up more than a week’s salary in order to do the right thing, I could be quite indifferent to the weird exhortations of the Koran”, which appears to be the hook you hang your views expressed here on. If you add a few short words to this quote: “And if all Muslims conducted themselves [all of the time] like the man who gave up more than a week’s salary in order to do the right thing, I could be quite indifferent to the weird exhortations of the Koran”, which more reflects the views Hitchens always expresses. If one analyses his world view wholistically instead of cherry picking quotes to try and effect the standing he has amoungst atheists, or to supply arguments your fellow religious apologists can use when debating atheists, the addition of these few short words rids your argument of it’s ammunition against him particularly and atheists generally. I too would not have become militant in the expression of my atheism if the religious behaved this way all of the time, but they don’t. While being driven to do good things for the reward of heaven or the avoidance of hell is a good thing for society generally, even though unnecessary because good things can be done for their own sake, much of the rest of what the religious do is harmful. Just the presence of so many religions is a cause of conflict globally. Animals are treated abominally while being slaughtered according to relious doctrine. Children continue to have their minds directed toward a world view they wish hadn’t been exposed to by the time they become adults and it takes them years to work through the personal, family and community issues they are confronted with while they adjust their thinking to their preferred world view; not to mention the effect this has on their relationships. I could go on and on. I have not met an atheist who has a problem with deists. Generally speaking many think if people want to believe in a god that’s their right and it doesn’t impose on my rights. It’s religions that cause the problems because by definition these institutions have attached rules to the belief in a god and whether most individuals follow those rules is irrelevant. If some individuals within each religion do follow the rules they legitimise the religion they believe in, and the many who don’t follow the rules legitimise the power of the elite by their numbers.
Well Roxanne and otehrs–the threat posed by ANY lightgiving religion, seems to me to be far less than aw orld in which the supremacy of human slavery to drugs and drives and appetites holds sway.
Unrelieved by the genrosity and beauty of the moral and spiritual development with which religious practice informs developing children and other seekers in the most deep and precious ways,tghis world is just a mad dog eat dog setting for social and economic and physical carnage, exploitation and injustice.
IMO,there is no philosophy or style of governance rooted in any political theory which has yet been expressed successfully to full manifestation of working and dynamic positive ends for its human stakeholders that has succeeeded in achieving social justice and freedom from oppression , without being literally bathed in spiritual beliefs as it has become manifest.
The heartless, soulless, colorless, psychic maiming and materialistic brutality of forms of political system which pollute the wellspring of religion , such as totalitarianism, fascisim, ancient or modern fiefdoms and their ilk: plutocracies, oligarchies, and communist states certainly do not demonstrate superiority to governments informed by faith practiced values.
By faith practiced values i mean those which exhort to and when lived, express the highest dreams, ambitions, aspirations, practial idealism and developed values for happiness for self and others that virtually every religion teaches which has progressed beyond the manipulistic and formulaic to a concept of the dynamically transcendent to cathect the world with potential for meaningful , enlightened , joyful and compassionate existence..
Religious faith empowers the that which is beyond any one human’s capacity to develop and to create. But it is not beyond our capacity to tap into that which is greater than any one of us yet indeliably natural and native , when learned and expressed as an enhanced depth of understanding, love, and the sternegthening of all the social goods it seems to take divine forces to supply and to support in a world in which humans become ever more depraved, selfish and appetite driven and cold hearted as they tear down the traditions which have sustained genration, as flawed as humans, but as magnificent as Creation.