Saving Mohammed Abu-Mustafa: the Complexities of Israel/Palestine in Shlomi Eldar’s ‘Precious Life’
by: Dave Belden on August 24th, 2010 | 19 Comments »
One of our readers just emailed me (I’m back from vacation, and from getting our Sept/Oct issue to print before that, which is why you haven’t heard from me for a while):
For the last several; weeks I have been following Tikkun Daily. I watch Israel get beaten into the ground as if it is the bad guy in the region. Rarely do I see columns that reveal the complexity of the conflict from all perspectives.
Recently I came upon the review of a documentary by Shlomi Eldar entitled “Precious Life”. I checked to see if anything in Tikkun Daily was written about it and I found nothing. I am hoping it comes to the US so I have the opportunity to see it. The documentary appears to reveal how difficult it is to favor one position over another. if you wish, here’s a review of the documentary. There is a strong sense of Tikkun Olam in it.
I know Tikkun is a left leaning magazine, but a little balance would go a long way in helping your readers understand the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
Thank you, David Stein, for the link to this remarkable movie review. Shlomi Eldar is an award-winning Israeli journalist. In this piece he says of a report he filed in 1992 about Palestinian children who were hurt during the intifada,
“Back then no one believed that there could be such a thing as the IDF hurting children,” he says sarcastically. “But I filmed disabled children, wounded children in hospitals, children who had been beaten, children who talked like old people about life and death. I remember meeting two girls there from affluent homes who changed my approach to the Palestinian situation. They told me how their home had been demolished during an operation to capture wanted men. I came back with powerful material and put together a report that for the first time showed children who had been wounded by Israeli fire. When I recorded the narration, my voice cracked from emotion. I realized I had dynamite. That was the report that really got me into Gaza.”
He covered Gaza for two decades, but when Israel invaded Gaza and he was unable to go there, he found himself covering, and filming, an Israeli hospital’s struggle to save a Gazan couple’s baby. He is drawn deeply into the family’s trust, but then is dumbfounded when the baby’s mother, Raida, says she hopes her boy will survive and grow up to be a suicide bomber, a shahid, a martyr.
“It is a regular thing,” she smiles at him. “Life is not precious. Life is precious, but not for us. For us, life is nothing, not worth a thing. That is why we have so many suicide bombers. They are not afraid of death. None of us, not even the children, are afraid of death. It is natural for us. After Mohammed gets well, I will certainly want him to be a shahid. If it’s for Jerusalem, then there’s no problem. For you it is hard, I know; with us, there are cries of rejoicing and happiness when someone falls as a shahid. For us a shahid is a tremendous thing.”
That was enough to drain Eldar’s motivation and dissolve all the compassion he had felt for Raida and Mohammed.
“It was an absolutely terrible rift,” he recalls. “After I saw how intensely she fought for her son’s life, I could not accept what she said. I had seen her standing for hours, caressing him, warming him up, kissing him. At the time I also had an infant of Mohammed’s age at home. I couldn’t understand where it came from in her. I was devastated. It was all so paradoxical, too, because just as she was talking about the shahids, two Jewish women entered the room and brought her toys and a stroller as presents.”
He stops filming but in the end starts again. It appears to be a remarkable movie:
“People come out of the film and talk about how they have been shaken up. They tell me that for days after seeing it that they couldn’t get it out of their minds. That is very moving. But besides the personal aspect of this, I also discovered a type of new hope, something deeper in regard to the conflict. When the peace agreement between the Israelis and the Palestinians was signed between Rabin and Arafat, I believed that its origins, in fact, lay in Israeli prisons. The encounter between Israelis and Palestinians in the prisons started with enmity and suspicion, and then something happened. Something softened, and wardens and inmates became friends.
“That is exactly the process I see now in the hospitals. Raida was also very suspicious when she first arrived here. But she discovered human beings, Israeli nurses who kiss her son. She let them sing him Hebrew lullabies. Filming her, I understood that the next peace process is taking shape in our hospitals.”
For those who assume Shlomi Eldar would agree with those (like Tikkun and the Network of Spiritual Progressives) who were against Israel’s invasion of Gaza, there is a surprise:
It’s clear to me that the war in Gaza was justified – no country can allow itself to be fired at with Qassam rockets -
But he goes on to say:
but I did not see many people pained by the loss of life on the Palestinian side. Because we were so angry at Hamas, all the Israeli public wanted was to fuck Gaza. It’s not by chance that I use that crass word. I use it because it was often heard on the street and it was a military slogan. I remember the wife of my barber telling me, ‘Let them kill all the Palestinians, let them burn.’
“It wasn’t until after the incident of Dr. Abu al-Aish – the Gaza physician I spoke with on live TV immediately after a shell struck his house and caused the death of his daughters, and he was shouting with grief and fear – that I discovered the silent majority that has compassion for people, including Palestinians. I found that many Israeli viewers shared my feelings. That was not the intention with which I set out, but the film creates a kind of encounter. Even though the woman speaks Arabic and sometimes covers her face, even though the ‘stars’ are a Palestinian couple – Israeli viewers are able to see themselves through them. When Raida cries for her baby, the audience cries with her, and when she laughs, they laugh with her.”
The whole movie review is here.



This is a tremendous Gift from You Dave and from your writer/sharer–and most of all from Shlomi- Eldar’s eloquent bare bones naked honesty in the film.
Sometimes life can be so horrible that all that is left is a struggle to make one”s life given UP meaningful
Sometimes the search for meaning for one’s Life is that one is WILLING to sacrifice it–this is not just the heart of Christianity but an archetypal quest for the search for emaning of humankind who have not been so brutally sickened they can no longer cope with a search and simply seek to make real what is most absent–in Gaza freedom and dignity, compassion and mercy, the time adn the place to heal.
remarkably this particular place offered the possibility
but we humans can be so blinded by the lack of depth in opur perceptions that we amke terrible and tragic mistakes
Perhaps the living hell of some people such as Gazans is such (isolated by Isreali law and oppressive, murderous apartheid from recognizing the human-ness of The Other)means that for those who consider themselves freedom fighters
Freedom has become “another word for nothing left to lose”
David, than youso muchor posting this blog.
Aminah,
I really think that you’re missing the point here, because you are spinning it into a blame Israeli oppression thing. You don’t understand that becoming a martyr is part of the indoctrination of Hamas. I have read where even aging Palestinian revolutionaries loath this level of Islamic extremism
You point out the living hell of Gaza, but you fail to acknowledge the living hell of Sderot. Don’t forget that thousands of rockets have poured down on that town. The only reasons there have been few casualties in Sderot is that the Israeli govt had taken pains to protect its residents. Gaza would not be a living hell if Hamas did not hold the strip hostage to its death cult militancy. While the Gazans suffer under Hamas, The West Bank Palestinians have seen an economic boom. And we can see why. Jenin, for instance, had been the staging point for many suicide bombers. The city has been cleaned out of Hamas and other suicidal militants and is now thriving. They are even soliciting business from Israelis over the Green Line.
This is the bottom line; it’s about choosing the celebration of life over the celebration of death. This is a primary way to achieve peace in the region. And when I read this mother’s hopes for her son the late PM Golda Meir’s quote comes to mind: “We will have peace with the Arabs when they love their children more than they hate us”
No David, i know very well the point here. I am a whistleblower who almost died because of teh shame, humiliation and desceration of my life’s best work which was beautiful and good and full of life giving energy–.
i know what it is like to be so beat down in body and spirit that your physical capacity is only energized by anger. and by the desirre to find a way almost anyway to not allow the bullies and the liars and the power oppressors who intentionally destroyed you that the may continue to live in their elitist comfort the while they profit from exploiting the vulnerable, and enculturate blaming the victims as a truism.
sorry, unless you choose to live in Gaza and share the awakening that comes with actualized knowledge of what dehumanizing Israeli policies have done to foment tribalism in place of human CAPACITY for altruism…think ANIMAL FARM, with Israel as the lost moral compass purveyors…then please do not patronize me.
Aminah,
I spent time in Gaza 1988-89, I know what it looks like. When the IDF withdrew from Gaza in 2005, a move I supported, and now regret Palaestinian leadershiip had an amzing opportunity to develop the region. New housing should have made the refugee camps a thing of the past. Donated hot house equipement could have made the land more productive, Well it did not happen that way. Hamas seized power and turned Gaza into a base of military operations. Fighters would used orchards in Bait Hanoun and Bait Lahia as cover for rocket fire and complain when the trees were brought down by the IDF
Your anger is misplaced. you should be directing it at Hamas, unless you are afraid to do so. Hamas represents a long line of deeply flawed Palestinian leadershiip that has done more harm than good on behalf of the Palestinian people.
As for the method of suicide bombing, I can think of no act more vile. A mother wishing her child to become a suicide bomber after he was handed the gift of life only shows how little love she has for him
That is a monctrous statement. It shows , just like the original cell phone commerical that i saw when it was released on Israeli air, the unedited for American audiences version that show3ed the IDF beating one lone bound and blindfolded Arab to his belly in the dirt, with a soccer ball…while a gang of IDF soldiers larked andcelebrated, that the dehuimanization of Arabs and muslims into which the past three generations of Israelis has been enculturated just like you..only perhaps more so!
Do you think you can make a thing right by saying it is so? The Israeli government, like the Palestinians in gaza, which has suffered the most and has such mobilized anger at their oppressors, has assasinated an entire geographic region’s best hope for peace, in Itshak Rabin. Then the apartheid theocracy of Israel, when faced with ultr-orthdox vs secular civil war, scaremongered an election which defeated the decent moderate with honest speeech and sage and compassionate wisdom in his heart, Shimon Perez (disparagigingly called “Smurf”) and voted in Ariel Sharon. Between Sharon adn Netanyahu there is not a whole lot to choose from in order to build harmony and strength in both nations. but on the whole i have come to prefer and to r respect Sharon.He talks tough but acts cautiously, and he is seasoned and amenable to learning. I belioeve like many an elder warrior, he would dearly like to strengthen the region’s capacity for and progress to peace.
Netanyahu is a the Bill Clinton , Tony Blair , Putin type–personal profit from office for his own children and coterie, at the expense of peace and social justice, is what he has achieved.
there is a phenomenon called learned helplessness. In the many years that i worked in the ghetto, and on the Rez of two different tribes, i saw it in spades./. I saw too, how the parents who desperately wanted their children to succeed and loved them dearly, had no clue how to help them become socially mobil and powerful in American hegemony of the well to do, who kept them out.
it always astounded me how welcoming and inviting, how HONESTY and DISCUSSIOn, how sincere RESPECT for the other, led to brilliant and usually said by others to be impossible–positive outcomes adn HARMONY, the big sister to Peace.
to believe that Arabs or muslims don’t love their children–that monstrous statement by Golda Meir, makes it much easier to kill people with words, abuse of power, settler gangs, and IDF that looks at GAza from the perspective of an occupying force, not from the POV of those who must live and die there.
Yes, Israel has its extremets that it has to be mindful of tem, but Israelis don’t have to be fear mongered in an election. After the assassination of Rabin by a Jewish extremest Peres took power and was faced with a serious challange to Oslo. Hamas spent the better part to 2 months sending suicide bombers to board buses in Jerusalem. Oh it was occuring with less frequency while Rabin and Arafat were continuing to negotiate,. But the shock of this bombing campaign forced Israelis to turn inward and ask if this this is what peace in the future will look like. Hamas’s actions compelled Israelis to turn away from Oslo, Peres and Labor in 1996. This, in reality, was the beginning of the end of Oslo. This was when many on the Israeli peace camp felt betrayed.
You seem to fail to acknowledge that that children have lost their lives in Israel. You fail to see that there is pain on both sides. And you fail to understand that as long as Hamas has it’s agenda, Israelis ee this as a fight for their right to exist
David, Is it possible that you have forgotten the 2000 pre-election
“heavily armed visit ” aka “triumphal march” that Ariel Sharon made to al-Aqsa mosque, which triggered the Second Intifada?
here is a news article which is current and reflects the intent of Israel to once again violate previous agreements about borders and the snactity of shared heritage sites. These sites COULD be places for dialogue and exchange in ways that promote mutual respect.Instead, Like the march season in Ireland, in which the Protestant Orange must strut to demonstrate their defeat of Northern Ireland’s Catholics, the Israeli hawks preciptated and provoked instead of reaching out to the demoralized and genuinely peace-leaning, Palestinians.
As you know, Arafat was a flawed leader whose main capacity was true patriotism and a tenuous capacity to link factions among the splintered Palestinians; but he was only a precious figurehead.He had only the progress of his peace-building efforts to utilize to make a less militant Palestine come alive.
But you know that, you all have had Mossad for many many years. You have had better communications about Arafat than Arafat had with his nominal allies in the various camps.
In any case, Sharon, like others, saw the danger in the real possibility of Israeli Civil War. It was a simple matter to stoke up all rivalries created by his masscre of Palestinians in the camps, women and children among them, in order by so doing to provoke the Intifada, and use that fear stoking to assure his election…unifying the Israelis in a superfically effective way AGAINST their common enemy instead of allowing them to weaken the Nation by fighting each other, secular and ultra orthodox.
here is the rcontemporary article to which i refer
http://www.turkishweekly.net/news/98677/israel-against-herself.html
it may refresh you selective memory, dear David
http://www.turkishweekly.net/news/98677/israel-against-herself.html
sorry the second link should have been to this recent article
http://palestinechronicle.com/view_article_details.php?id=15837
Arafat’s capacity to link factions was a result of his financial capacity to line their pockets. Arafat was as corrupt as corrupt can be. I am sure that much of that money, along with missing European aid money is sitting in Swiss bank accounts collecting interest.
Sharon walking on the Temple Mount was not what set off the 2nd intifada. I see nothing wrong with his visit seeing as Jews have a right to access the Temple Mount as well. Of course a peaceful demonstration rather than an all out riot would have sufficed. As I pointed out, the Oslo peace effort really started coming to an end in 1996 when Hamas decided that it was ok to blow up Israeli buses with suicide bombers. The planned riot was just the nail in the coffin of the peace process
Regarding massacres, I dare say that more Arabs have been killed by fellow Arabs than by Israelis. Before pointing a finger at Israelis, you might want to look at the bloody human rights within the Arab world. While the world focused on Sharon’s involvement in the Sabra and Shatilla massacre by Phalangist Arabs, the world stood quietly by as Hafez Assad murdered 10,000-20,000 residents of Hama, Syria. The exact number of victims was never known because the Syrian military did not allow access to the area. by reporters
Here is a New York Daily News Editorial on the visist of Ariel Sharon to the Temple Mpount. The News is tno leftist rag. ANd it also shows how provoactive the visit was, in no uncertain terms, remindiung the reader that Moshe Dayan took down an Israeli Flag from the site, because of its extreme holiness to the msulims.
http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/2000/10/01/2000-10-01_sharon_has_knack_for_disturb.html
i think that many times the disppossessed turn on each other in violence, witness the black on black crime. but i am not interested in casting blame but in understanding the balances and the mitigation of grievances so that real peace can be achieved.
becasue of zisrael’s theocratic laws, many Jews within her confines are not considered Jewish enough..the real barrier to mideast pece is the Israeli fear of “miscegenation” if that is the right word, or mixed marriages. the Arabs being allowed to attend school with Israeli kids, or to marry them (both are forbidden by law and/or segregation policy) would threaten the spectre of mixed marriages, which could in fact bring peace faster to the Middle East than almost any other prospect.
or if the paranoid bigot neonazi part of the Israeli population and the few Islamofasicsts in Gaza win out…not.
I remember the incident on the temple Mount and I also remember that there were calls all over Arab East Jerusalem to join in the riot. Rocks were hurled down at worshipers at the Western Wall. Interestingly enough, you are posting on a site that promotes MLK and Gandhi non violent actions, yet you are justifying a violent riot. Sharon’s visit may have been the spark, but anything could have provided the ignition to the 2nd intifada. The conditions existed for it.
Theocratic laws: Related ot marriage they exits. Actually Israel uses some of the Ottoman laws, where marriage laws are controlled by respective religious authorities, but should an Jew and Arab get married outside of Israel, it is recognized within Israel. But lets take a closer look. Israel really is hardly unique. Recently a marriage between and Egyptian Arab and Jew was nullified in Egyptian court. What I really love reading is complaints by non Israelis about how Israel is not Liberal or pluralistic enough. Looking around at her neighbors, including Saudi Arabia, I am astounded by those complaints. Israel, with all of its flaws is more Democratic and pluralistic than any state in the region.
Finally, you might have read what has been happening in Jordan of late. Quietly Palestinians citizens of Jordan have been stripped of Jordanian citizenship. No protests, no complaints, absolutely nothing. But Israel will get an earful from those looking to blame their problems on it.
Actually, David, the conditions were more amenable for peace than at many a previous time, just as the momentum for peace was globally at its highest in perhaps a half century or more following 9/11…and instead, GW Bush fanned anti-muslim and anti-Arab sentiment and made immediate plans to colonize Iraq.
HAd we instead immediately put down the taliban and Al-quaida in Afghanistan, with scores of allies including Arab nations beside us, we would have been able to replicate the succeses of the Persian Gulf war. of course our having Arab allies ahs not ever been appealing to Israel.
In any case, i am not a pacifist. I do not believe that non-violence can be successful in totalitarian states. I think that we are going to face cyber and biological warfare from China and North Korea that will make our concerns about any Arab nations look miniscule…i think that we may then yet find that our allies among the Arab nations like Saudi Arabia are with us in that fight.
I do not believe in appeacement, i do believe in just war, and i think that as Aristotle posited, the end of democracy is plutocracy unless democracy is restored. As Our P[resident struggles to maintain his coalition of moderates drawn from both parties in the face of defection from both sides and the usual jackals baying blame and shame game and promoting political gridlock they can take all the way to the bank and NEVER have to share, i find myself thinking that we are squandering an opportunity to promote world peace by gutting the power and scuttling the dinplomacy of our President. I am convinced that racism is indeed a factor in this, though liberals will never admit it…
in any case, as a person of faith, who holds bith the Jews and The Christians in high regard and believes that all the religions need not agree but simply agree to disagree and allow for the freedoms of our nation to resume and stop fighting about the media outlets which lean left or right and instead focus on eradicating or at least outing ALL the yellow journalism that both sides spew=– i mean healthy self criticism…that that si onw of the only ways to find the harmony among differences that can help us have civic responsbility and goods citizenship, prosperity and security again.
If we can restore it at home, we can once again model the kind of integrity that inspires other nations and peoples.
But our biggest achilles heel is our economy is dependent upon organized crime to a tremendous extent that we do not acknowledge. That festering wound has got to be cleaned up and mended with productivity and real industry at home that can shore up and employ communtites…ans that is going to require real reform…something ayt which Obama aims to gradually achieve, but the elitist uberclass which comprised richies on the right and left may not let him.
i do not give up hope that we will in time have a pardigm shift in perception that opens our eyes to the dangers of our new neo-feudalism. This combination of problems including organized crime also infects Israel. There it is even more pervasive and nakedly apparent.
Unless we build alliances to combat it, we will not need any external enemy to defeat us, becasue we will continue to rot from within.
In any case, i ahve enjoyed this discussion with you, but there are no winners…maybe we can be a little bit more appreciative of the other person’s perspective, and maybe we can find some areas of hope for eventual ceasefire.
I do strongly support Israel, and always will. I also cannot be blind deaf dumb and silent in the face of the suffering of my brothers and sisters.
I pray that some miracle occurs and there is peace in our time.
First comes mutual respect. Next comes a recognition that an agreement will not produce everything each side desires. Nothing is insurmountable. A small window as opened, with the prospect of direct negotiations in Sept. Netanyahu is better positioned than a left leading gov’t to bring about peace, because he can garner wider support for concessions. The left would never reject an opportunity for peace
As for Hamas, Palestinians need to show them the door if they cannot sit down at a negotiating table. They serve no one but themselves
As for te invasion of Iraq, it was a terrible move. Saddam is evil, but he was not the problem. All NATO should have put their efforts on the Taliban and Al Qaida.
There are great global threats. Add Iran to the list. They are a grave threat to the whole region.
Commenting on the beginning of this string (it eventually took off in a lot of directions!): I think Aminah is justified in trying to explain and contextualize the notion of martyrdom — first of all, it is linked to Muslim ideas of death of the afterlife that are not comparable to Christian, Jewish, Hindu … etc. Second, I agree with Aminah that it is a symptom of helplessness and horrible living conditions. Neither Gazans NOR West Bankers truly experience economic prosperity — I was very surprised to read David’s references to the economic development of Jenin. This is certainly an exception, when so much Palestinian land is threatened by settlements. The products of the cultivated land often cannot make it through checkpoints before rotting. And, wow, to have spent time in Gaza in 1990 — how different it was then! When I wrote a high school report on Palestine in 1999, Palestinians were still moving freely between Gaza and the West Bank, working in Israel, and the nature of their complaints centered on transportation delays. Now Gaza is an open air prison. Is Hamas solely to blame for this degeneration? No, Israel’s string of right-wing leaders and dormant / non-existent (!) left is to blame. They are what pushed people into the arms of Hamas. Hamas’ popularity rating before Israel bombed the shit out of Gaza a year and a half ago? Only 20% about. After the bombing began? Their popularity shot up to 70%. Israel must show that it is serious about peace by making real gestures towards peace. Israel must take the first step — to continue oppressing Palestinians and expect them to suddenly turn resentment and hate into love? Yeah right. Settlements must be halted. Palestinians must be given sovereignty, self-determination, and the resources to make their lives that of real citizens with rights and futures.
Have you read The Lemon Tree by Sandy Tolan? It is Dalia who must plant the tree in the end of the book.
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Sarita, regarding you need a few corrections here
1. West Bank: Nablus, Ramallah and and Jenin have seen economic growth and even prosperity. Interestingly enough check points have been quietly coming down. Further more, with imporved security, the wall between the Gilo neighborhood in Jerusalem and Bait Jalah was just dismantled. So things have been changing for the positive. Suffering is a bit of a myth.
2. Freedom of movement between Israel/Gaza and the West Bank; Well things kind of started changing in 1996.That was when Hamas decided to send suicide bombers into Israel to blow buses up. Well, you can kind of understand that Israel would not want to see Palestinians crossing the Green Line. After all, who could be trusted? When a Palestinian climbs on a bus, do you know if they are wrapped in explosives. No, it is not some imagine threat. Palestinian don’ have some inherent right to work in Israel.
3. After life, Martyrdom and Suicide bombing; Reading your response almost seem to justify Aminah’s explanation of suicide bombing. I am terribly sorry, it is the most vile form of terrorism. I cannot imagine any moderate Muslim cleric suggesting that suicide bombing is the road to paradise, whatever that is. It is something that should sicken all of us..When this reporter, Eldar, went out on a limb to save this child’s life, I can see him doing a double take when he hears his mother’s dreams for her son.
.4. Peace is a 2 way street where both sides meet half way. The region of Israel. West bank and Gaza is very compact. If the Palestinians want an entity, they will also need to show that the agreed border is final and secure. Any form of low level terror after an agreement is signed should never be tolerated
*correction: death AND the afterlife
If you want to really apply this concept, than Israel should not be condemned for battle deaths suffered by Gazans, after all they are martyrs on the road to the afterlife. This may sound mean but death seems to take on a different meaning for FANATIC Muslims when American or Israelis are behind it. Please don’t accuse me of stating something immoral, because I am just trying the follow the flow of religious values you just laid out for us. This is where Hamas comes to play. They have whine to the world about Israeli atrocities while they celebrate death. My surprise is that no one calls them on this hypocrisy.
This is a very ingenuous position David, to focus on martyrs…as rligious fanatics. surely you know that it is the marxist cocept of historical determination that has fueled the terror by Jews during the forties and the terror in Gaza now.
hamas is an opportunistic group with equal opportunity for freedom fighters who subscribe to avrious ideologies or religious motivations…but even in the movie we are seemingly noimnally discussing, it is clear that the child is not meant to be a religious martyr but a freedom fighter against oppression so severe it mitigates the notion of empathy.
i think we argue far too much about what we think or demand the other party subscribes to, usually it is a collection of our own defensive stances with justifications we are able to trot out out at any juncture that might otehrwise show us in a negative light.
this is absurd, in a way, since we all haev culpabilities and belief systems that conflict at times..to me the way to approcach this conversation is with an appreciation for the fresh parts of it, the honest parts of it, the empathic and supportive parts of it, the way that facts appear to uphold truths to various parties, and to reconsider our own POV from the perspective of what we are hearing…along with the acceptance we need not AGREE to rsolve the conflict. we need to be creative, we need to be resourceful, we need to open these winf=dows and door of mutual respect, and we need to vent a little a little and then stoip the counter productive blame shame game…and see where we can go with i statements about ourt OWN community instead of solely YOU and THEM statements which are expressive of our experience of the otehr, but limited because we cannot on our own no matter how much we assert that we are doing so,,,see the rationale from anotehr’s POV without their honest and consientious assistance.
i am grateful for this conversation and happy that Sarita is jumping in to share her views and respect for the Palestinians.
i do not thinkw e can ever really ahve the cesstion of conflict without an appreciation for the voice of the people who are supposedly thriving in the disspossessed regions of Palestine David…when they concur woith your view of a robust economy and when the humanitrarian groups also concur then perhaps we can agree that these in fact are thriving communities… surely Israel does not wish to rerun old propaganda…but is interested in the actualized change that can and shall bring peace, God-willing.
i think that the immense human trgaedy that causes a people to celebrate the triumph over an enemy that ahs taken their child, makes G-d cry…and that your statement far from being immoral, is a statement that shows how rigid indeed have the walls of the hearts of the Israelis become that do not recognize this, and ascribe it to a failure of nurturing rather than to an epic human tragedy
And as the movie shows, there are as you have pointed out walls on the hearts of the Palestinians as well, i think it is the lament of the movie, but i also think you have made a point that walls can be breached with windows and doors to understanding and mutual respect