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		<title>By: JustJack</title>
		<link>http://www.tikkun.org/tikkundaily/2010/03/16/empathy-the-most-revolutionary-emotion/comment-page-1/#comment-7595</link>
		<dc:creator>JustJack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 19:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It could be in this recording, but I&#039;m not certain. I&#039;ve asked the archives folks about it as the talk MLK Jr gave was aired within this past month or two... http://pacificaradioarchives.org/browse/recording.php?recid=13&amp;catid=1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It could be in this recording, but I&#8217;m not certain. I&#8217;ve asked the archives folks about it as the talk MLK Jr gave was aired within this past month or two&#8230; <a href="http://pacificaradioarchives.org/browse/recording.php?recid=13&#038;catid=1" rel="nofollow">http://pacificaradioarchives.org/browse/recording.php?recid=13&#038;catid=1</a></p>
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		<title>By: JustJack</title>
		<link>http://www.tikkun.org/tikkundaily/2010/03/16/empathy-the-most-revolutionary-emotion/comment-page-1/#comment-7592</link>
		<dc:creator>JustJack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 19:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have a link. I heard it on the radio one night driving home.  However, it should be searchable via the Pacifica Radio Archive. I believe it was circa 1958.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have a link. I heard it on the radio one night driving home.  However, it should be searchable via the Pacifica Radio Archive. I believe it was circa 1958.</p>
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		<title>By: Edwin Rutsch</title>
		<link>http://www.tikkun.org/tikkundaily/2010/03/16/empathy-the-most-revolutionary-emotion/comment-page-1/#comment-7482</link>
		<dc:creator>Edwin Rutsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 19:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JustJack

do you have a direct link to what MLK said about empathy?
 I like to track down all those comments for my website as a reference.

thanks</description>
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<p>do you have a direct link to what MLK said about empathy?<br />
 I like to track down all those comments for my website as a reference.</p>
<p>thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Valerie</title>
		<link>http://www.tikkun.org/tikkundaily/2010/03/16/empathy-the-most-revolutionary-emotion/comment-page-1/#comment-7467</link>
		<dc:creator>Valerie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 00:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How I understand empathy is that we try to understand what has made people as they are.  This helps to inspire patience for the person without interfering with rejection of their ideas.

Their ideas are ingrained and they are often unwilling to be introspective as you say.  We may not like their ideas, but we recognise that they are human beings no less than we are.

It&#039;s not really so much about them.  It&#039;s about us.  Will we reduce our humanity because of other people&#039;s attitudes and behaviours?

We can accept their humanity while vigorously opposing their ideas and actions.  To do less is to jeopardise our own humanity.

This kind of detachment takes a lot of effort and practice and we can&#039;t always pull it off, but I believe it is worthwhile in the end.

From a practical point of view, it is more effective and healthier than the alternative.  

Aren&#039;t we more likely to act effectively if we are clear-thinking and determined rather than blinded by indignation and impatience?

And...who gets high blood pressure from the angry feelings?  Not the Tea Partiers :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How I understand empathy is that we try to understand what has made people as they are.  This helps to inspire patience for the person without interfering with rejection of their ideas.</p>
<p>Their ideas are ingrained and they are often unwilling to be introspective as you say.  We may not like their ideas, but we recognise that they are human beings no less than we are.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not really so much about them.  It&#8217;s about us.  Will we reduce our humanity because of other people&#8217;s attitudes and behaviours?</p>
<p>We can accept their humanity while vigorously opposing their ideas and actions.  To do less is to jeopardise our own humanity.</p>
<p>This kind of detachment takes a lot of effort and practice and we can&#8217;t always pull it off, but I believe it is worthwhile in the end.</p>
<p>From a practical point of view, it is more effective and healthier than the alternative.  </p>
<p>Aren&#8217;t we more likely to act effectively if we are clear-thinking and determined rather than blinded by indignation and impatience?</p>
<p>And&#8230;who gets high blood pressure from the angry feelings?  Not the Tea Partiers :)</p>
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		<title>By: JustJack</title>
		<link>http://www.tikkun.org/tikkundaily/2010/03/16/empathy-the-most-revolutionary-emotion/comment-page-1/#comment-7420</link>
		<dc:creator>JustJack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 23:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For them to listen to themselves would require substantive introspection on their part. I grew up among such people and introspection and deep listening are not things that enter their consciousness. Not even when offered the help to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For them to listen to themselves would require substantive introspection on their part. I grew up among such people and introspection and deep listening are not things that enter their consciousness. Not even when offered the help to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: JustJack</title>
		<link>http://www.tikkun.org/tikkundaily/2010/03/16/empathy-the-most-revolutionary-emotion/comment-page-1/#comment-7419</link>
		<dc:creator>JustJack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 23:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great blog post. What comes up for me is the crisis created when people with whom I may well share common ground but whose &quot;solutions&quot; all-too real and those solutions represent, and indeed create, devastating negative impacts upon me and my family. Having encountered many tea-partiers (I routinely call them something else but, I recognize &quot;tea-baggers&quot; is perhaps not the most enlightened term) I have to say, it&#039;s very difficult for me to accept that common ground is or can be enough. I don&#039;t believe it is when their solutions are so dangerously opposed to mine/progressives&#039;. One can pass this off as being an ideologue but when one&#039;s values are the core of any ideology arising from it, it seems foolish to compromise that ideology because it will necessarily violate core values (beliefs, meh, they&#039;re changeable, values are not).

MLK, Jr. said something about empathy and love back in the late 1950&#039;s (Pacifica Archives has the talk he gave) and pointed out that empathy only works if you honestly want to have a relationship with the other (who is working for the system; he also said love mans not allowing ourselves to confuse the &quot;apparatus of oppression&quot; with the agent of it--which still just doesn&#039;t compute to me; I&#039;ve walked away from things that violated my values and feel sacrificing for the good is what&#039;s required. If you&#039;re an agent of oppression, you picked your quiksand, I&#039;m not about to let you off the hook for that choice--MLK, Jr. was just a better guy than I). Sure, there are some people in the Right that I do want to have a relationship with and for them I struggle to apprehend and possess the requisite empathy. But for others, I have no interest in any relationship with them. I don&#039;t respect them, I don&#039;t care about them, and it&#039;s real easy to want them just plain gone so I don&#039;t have to bear the brunt of their misbehavior, hate, etc. 

E.g., when a tea partier began to spout off with a white supremacist vitriol about Obama, sure our common ground is that we don&#039;t like what his policies and decisions have been and the consequences of them (well, some, he was pretty looney about some consequences--I&#039;ve gone hungry and been homeless to foreclosure while that dude has not and still owns his house) but I will NOT tolerate white supremacist polemics as a solution to disagreement with Obama. That violates my core values. I cannot see &quot;the good&quot; in such a person. The Neo-Nazi sickness gets in my way, and it feels very dangerous (to my personal and family&#039;s safety) to try to see any good in such a human being.

Frankly, because of that, I simply am at a loss when it comes to what to do with the common ground, whatever that may be, when the solutions are diametrically opposite. When it comes to hate, it&#039;s no longer a matter of opinion; there can be no compromise coming from me with white supremacy, homophobia, etc. And I have yet to see someone from such an ilk change their mind either. So, all that to share that Empathy is a pretty tough road when it comes down to it. It&#039;s a lot easier to write about it than to actually practice it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great blog post. What comes up for me is the crisis created when people with whom I may well share common ground but whose &#8220;solutions&#8221; all-too real and those solutions represent, and indeed create, devastating negative impacts upon me and my family. Having encountered many tea-partiers (I routinely call them something else but, I recognize &#8220;tea-baggers&#8221; is perhaps not the most enlightened term) I have to say, it&#8217;s very difficult for me to accept that common ground is or can be enough. I don&#8217;t believe it is when their solutions are so dangerously opposed to mine/progressives&#8217;. One can pass this off as being an ideologue but when one&#8217;s values are the core of any ideology arising from it, it seems foolish to compromise that ideology because it will necessarily violate core values (beliefs, meh, they&#8217;re changeable, values are not).</p>
<p>MLK, Jr. said something about empathy and love back in the late 1950&#8242;s (Pacifica Archives has the talk he gave) and pointed out that empathy only works if you honestly want to have a relationship with the other (who is working for the system; he also said love mans not allowing ourselves to confuse the &#8220;apparatus of oppression&#8221; with the agent of it&#8211;which still just doesn&#8217;t compute to me; I&#8217;ve walked away from things that violated my values and feel sacrificing for the good is what&#8217;s required. If you&#8217;re an agent of oppression, you picked your quiksand, I&#8217;m not about to let you off the hook for that choice&#8211;MLK, Jr. was just a better guy than I). Sure, there are some people in the Right that I do want to have a relationship with and for them I struggle to apprehend and possess the requisite empathy. But for others, I have no interest in any relationship with them. I don&#8217;t respect them, I don&#8217;t care about them, and it&#8217;s real easy to want them just plain gone so I don&#8217;t have to bear the brunt of their misbehavior, hate, etc. </p>
<p>E.g., when a tea partier began to spout off with a white supremacist vitriol about Obama, sure our common ground is that we don&#8217;t like what his policies and decisions have been and the consequences of them (well, some, he was pretty looney about some consequences&#8211;I&#8217;ve gone hungry and been homeless to foreclosure while that dude has not and still owns his house) but I will NOT tolerate white supremacist polemics as a solution to disagreement with Obama. That violates my core values. I cannot see &#8220;the good&#8221; in such a person. The Neo-Nazi sickness gets in my way, and it feels very dangerous (to my personal and family&#8217;s safety) to try to see any good in such a human being.</p>
<p>Frankly, because of that, I simply am at a loss when it comes to what to do with the common ground, whatever that may be, when the solutions are diametrically opposite. When it comes to hate, it&#8217;s no longer a matter of opinion; there can be no compromise coming from me with white supremacy, homophobia, etc. And I have yet to see someone from such an ilk change their mind either. So, all that to share that Empathy is a pretty tough road when it comes down to it. It&#8217;s a lot easier to write about it than to actually practice it.</p>
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		<title>By: Judith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is so inspiring! I wish more left and right wingers could see the common values that we share, that are universal. For the last several years, I have studied nonviolent communication, as conceived of by Dr. Marshall Rosenberg. It has helped me to see people who have different points of view as more human. I can see that other people have the same basic needs as I do, but that we all have different ways of getting our needs met. This has been a transformative learning for me, because being able to see people&#039;s needs helps me to be more connected to other people and myself, separate from any judgments that arise between people in a situation. 

Recent studies in neuroscience have discovered that our brains are actually wired to be feeling other people&#039;s experience. The research is showing that people are actually quite a bit more influenced by each other&#039;s experiences than we thought before. All the more reason to model kindness and empathy to one another across differences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is so inspiring! I wish more left and right wingers could see the common values that we share, that are universal. For the last several years, I have studied nonviolent communication, as conceived of by Dr. Marshall Rosenberg. It has helped me to see people who have different points of view as more human. I can see that other people have the same basic needs as I do, but that we all have different ways of getting our needs met. This has been a transformative learning for me, because being able to see people&#8217;s needs helps me to be more connected to other people and myself, separate from any judgments that arise between people in a situation. </p>
<p>Recent studies in neuroscience have discovered that our brains are actually wired to be feeling other people&#8217;s experience. The research is showing that people are actually quite a bit more influenced by each other&#8217;s experiences than we thought before. All the more reason to model kindness and empathy to one another across differences.</p>
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		<title>By: david wolinsky</title>
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		<dc:creator>david wolinsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 00:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Out here (i.e., a &#039;city&#039; of 70,000) I often hang out (even worship, not what I&#039;d otherwise do) with Quakers. There is something there of community (and silence worth a followup of the recent Tikkun piece) -- and the best interchanges take place between myself, a contemporary kindred spirit, and someone half our age who is a serious liLibertarian involved with the Campaign for Liberty. After some months I can say that none of our conversation (most of which is political) follows ideological scripts. Dave has the essence of it --poeple are INTERESTING and touching when yiu can reach them and find common ground, which is nothing like similar positions or opinions.

I saw the love and hunger for truth of this young farther and responded. It works. The rub of course is that hunger and lovein most of us lies buried beneath our socialization to empire (Freedom), materialism, cynicism,narcissism etc. Perhaps a contemporary JC would say &quot;Heal Thy Enemy as thou wouldst heal thyself,&quot; -- a tall order to say the least, but I suspect the one of the few things worth talking about in this context.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Out here (i.e., a &#8216;city&#8217; of 70,000) I often hang out (even worship, not what I&#8217;d otherwise do) with Quakers. There is something there of community (and silence worth a followup of the recent Tikkun piece) &#8212; and the best interchanges take place between myself, a contemporary kindred spirit, and someone half our age who is a serious liLibertarian involved with the Campaign for Liberty. After some months I can say that none of our conversation (most of which is political) follows ideological scripts. Dave has the essence of it &#8211;poeple are INTERESTING and touching when yiu can reach them and find common ground, which is nothing like similar positions or opinions.</p>
<p>I saw the love and hunger for truth of this young farther and responded. It works. The rub of course is that hunger and lovein most of us lies buried beneath our socialization to empire (Freedom), materialism, cynicism,narcissism etc. Perhaps a contemporary JC would say &#8220;Heal Thy Enemy as thou wouldst heal thyself,&#8221; &#8212; a tall order to say the least, but I suspect the one of the few things worth talking about in this context.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the Obama heath care rally on Saturday Sept. 11 in Minneapolis, I approached several anti-reformers as a panhandler asking for a handout to help me pay my lapsing health insurance premiums,  Some told me to ask the people standing in line to see Obama.  Some said get on Medicaid (ironically, a government program).  Some stuck their hands in their pockets and asked me how much I needed and gave me $5 and $10.  I had the money in my hand and gave it back saying &quot;I can&#039;t take your money, you are a good person, and you put your money where your mouth is.&quot;  Many of the anti-reformers are caring and generous people with empathy for fellow human beings who truly believe what they are against is a government incursion on their freedom and liberty.  They should be taken for real, as people with substantive concerns.  The problem is how we bridge this gap and ease the fear of our fellow human beings so they can help ease ours. This experiment and theater totally surprised me. First I didn&#039;t expect the degree of empathy and compassion some on the anti-health care reform had, and the degree I sympathized with their frustration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the Obama heath care rally on Saturday Sept. 11 in Minneapolis, I approached several anti-reformers as a panhandler asking for a handout to help me pay my lapsing health insurance premiums,  Some told me to ask the people standing in line to see Obama.  Some said get on Medicaid (ironically, a government program).  Some stuck their hands in their pockets and asked me how much I needed and gave me $5 and $10.  I had the money in my hand and gave it back saying &#8220;I can&#8217;t take your money, you are a good person, and you put your money where your mouth is.&#8221;  Many of the anti-reformers are caring and generous people with empathy for fellow human beings who truly believe what they are against is a government incursion on their freedom and liberty.  They should be taken for real, as people with substantive concerns.  The problem is how we bridge this gap and ease the fear of our fellow human beings so they can help ease ours. This experiment and theater totally surprised me. First I didn&#8217;t expect the degree of empathy and compassion some on the anti-health care reform had, and the degree I sympathized with their frustration.</p>
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		<title>By: Martha Larsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martha Larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that we need to listen more to one another - in a Rogerian way - hear well the other person.  Perhaps when the person is well heard we can add what we think, but listening it vital.
I think Tea Party people need to hear themselves, need to hear that they repeat one liners, but then they need to have their concerns expressed out loud for them and others to hear.  OUr think our concerns our similar - growing national debt, a Congress that seems out of touch, a need to have our concerns heard, etc.
I really think we could change more in the country if we truly tried to listen - and let people hear themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that we need to listen more to one another &#8211; in a Rogerian way &#8211; hear well the other person.  Perhaps when the person is well heard we can add what we think, but listening it vital.<br />
I think Tea Party people need to hear themselves, need to hear that they repeat one liners, but then they need to have their concerns expressed out loud for them and others to hear.  OUr think our concerns our similar &#8211; growing national debt, a Congress that seems out of touch, a need to have our concerns heard, etc.<br />
I really think we could change more in the country if we truly tried to listen &#8211; and let people hear themselves.</p>
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