How Scientism Endangers Science, and the Entire Planet
by: Dave Belden on January 8th, 2010 | 14 Comments »
“The scientific mind does not so much provide the right answers as ask the right questions.”
– Claude Lévi-Strauss
But are scientists asking themselves enough questions about scientism? We have asked a science graduate (of MIT) who is interning with us, Sarah Ackley, to write a series of posts on this question, not straightforwardly channeling Tikkun’s editorial stance but wrestling with it from her own point of view. I told her I would try to set the scene. I should say up front that I have come to think that this is one of the two or three most critical intellectual issues of our time. But I didn’t think so before I came to Tikkun and I don’t expect others to come any more quickly to this view than I have done.
I don’t recall hearing the word “scientism” before reading Michael Lerner’s books in the last few years (and I find science prof Lawrence Krauss writing in my favorite science mag in 2008 that he had only heard it in the previous two or three years so I’m not alone). But consulting Wikipedia I discover that it has been used “by social scientists like Hayek or Karl Popper” and “sociologists in the tradition of Max Weber, such as Jürgen Habermas.” Wikipedia says this is what it means:
Reviewing the references to scientism in the works of contemporary scholars, Gregory R. Peterson detects two main broad themes:
1. It is used to criticize a totalizing view of science as if it were capable of describing all reality and knowledge, or as if it were the only true way to acquire knowledge about reality and the nature of things;
2. It is used to denote a border-crossing violation in which the theories and methods of one (scientific) discipline are inappropriately applied to another (scientific or non-scientific) discipline and its domain. An example of this second usage is to label as scientism any attempt to claim science as the only or primary source of human values (a traditional domain of ethics) or as the source of meaning and purpose (a traditional domain of religion and related worldviews).
Krauss, in the piece referred to, thinks scientism is nothing much to worry about, at least compared to “religionism … which describes the philosophical position that God exists and therefore all progress in science, and everything else for that matter, must be interpreted in light of this reality.” He explains in part:
I once spoke at the Pontifical Academy of Science in the Vatican to a meeting that included theologians, biologists and cosmologists. I was discussing cosmology and I said, partly to be provocative, but also because it was true, that the theologians had to listen to me, but I didn’t have to listen to them. Indeed, for modern theology to make any sense, it must take into account what we have found to be true about the physical universe. But as a cosmologist, theological revelations are irrelevant.
I agree with the last two sentences if he is only talking about doing science, because science by definition is looking for naturalistic explanations and measurable results.
But if we are talking about doing what scientists tell us we have to do to save innumerable species and keep climate change to manageable proportions, then I find scientism much more worrying than religionism, and Krauss should also. All the hubristic abuses of religion have never been enough to cause a mass extinction of species or the flooding of great cities and coastlines, still less to threaten human civilization itself (I am assuming that Noah’s Flood did not actually take place!). As pre-scientific animals we were capable of great cruelty to each other but we were not powerful enough to change the world’s climate, pollute its oceans and all our bodies, etc.
It is not science, exactly, that has done this, but the misuse of science. (I hear an echo of “it’s not handguns but people that cause handgun deaths” and that’s only a half truth; but the fact is that we might want to get rid of handguns but we certainly don’t want to get rid of science).
If Krauss was asking the right questions about science and scientism, I believe he would start with asking what can keep our misuse of science in check, once religion has lost authority, as it has among the real rulers of our world today: the corporations and the legislative bodies of the wealthiest countries. The answer I would expect of him, or of any liberal rationalist, is that a rational pursuit of human interests will protect us. But this doesn’t cut it. Quite apart from the fact, increasingly accepted as fact by the relevant sciences, that humans are not notably driven by rationality, there is the issue of how we come to determine our interests and the values that we will pursue. How rational is it for any of us to ditch our short term interests in favor of our unborn descendants’ interests?
It all comes down to “why should I care? “There are good reasons to care and good reasons not to care. Most of us would say the reasons to care about our unborn descendants and threatened species outweigh the reasons not to care, but we continue to act most of the time as if the reverse was true. It’s not ultimately a matter of reason but of the heart. It’s a question of what gods or values our reason will serve. Its about what the real meaning of life is, and how we come to embrace the idea that all people, all species and all living beings are worthy in themselves. It is about how we value the interdependent whole as much as our own individual selves. I don’t have a better word than “spiritual” to describe this search and sensitivity.
The question about scientism, then, is whether it helps or hinders us in choosing values and in treating these chosen values as imperatives in our lives: values that can act powerfully enough in our lives to get us to behave as if we loved the whole planet’s biosphere. We have to cultivate that love, through prose, song, ritual, imagination, art and all the ways humans develop to create strong cultures. Scientism as I understand it is an emotionally cold kind of rationalism that says the search for and embrace of meaning in the heart and spirit and artistic imagination is less important or less authoritative than the scientific kind of search. But clearly it has to be much more important. It has be dominant in our lives if we are to work out how to use the godlike tools science has given us to beneficent effect. If we can’t embrace each other and all species in love, then science will continue to be used to such dangerous effect that the rump of humanity that will be left after our civilization crumbles will reject it out of hand. It will be back to the worst kind of anti-science religion. For true science to flourish and be as beneficent as we wish it to be, we have to dethrone it from our minds as the highest source of authority, and work out how to locate that authority in spiritual imperatives that do not replicate the worst aspects of traditional religion. That isn’t an easy task. It involves studying the nature of cultism and so on, but with a view to recreating science-compatible religion that is strong enough to make science the servant of love and not its judge.
I don’t expect Sarah, our scientifically literate intern, to agree with me about all this. But I hope we have a good time batting the ideas back and forth and hopefully we will all learn something in the process.
Later: Sarah’s first post is here. You can find the rest by clicking on her name under her post’s title.



I am looking forward to this series! In discussing scientism, I hope Sarah will address biopsychiatry at length, since this is currently the hottest battlefield between scientism and more balanced views.
John Breeding, PhD psychologist, has this to say about biopsychiatry:
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Modeled after the practice of medicine, biopsychiatry has all the trappings of language that we associate with scientific medicine. Biopsychiatry has the language, but not the science. To understand psychiatry today, it is necessary to be very clear that it is not about medicine; it is really about social control. The basic assumptions of biopsychiatry are as follows:
1) Adjustment to society is good.
2) Failure to adjust is the result of “mental illness.”
3) “Mental illness” (Depression, schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, etc.) is a medical disease.
4) “Mental illness” is the result of biological and/or genetic defects.
5) “Mental illness” is chronic, progressive, and basically incurable.
6) “Mental illness” can (and must) be controlled primarily by drugs; secondarily, and for really severe “mental illness,” by electroshock.
7) People with “mental illness” are irrational, and unable to make responsible decisions for themselves; therefore, coercion is necessary and justified.
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( from: http://bipolarblast.wordpress.com/2009/11/22/my-views-on-psychiatry/ )
Opposed to biopsychiatry are a typically-motley array of humanists, critical thinkers, and spiritually-minded folks.
If biopsychiatry triumphs, as it seems to be on the verge of doing ( see recent news stories about the massive administration of mind and behavior numbing drugs to children ), then the resistance to scientism may vanish in a generation or two (due to medication-induced apathy). So, while scientism’s effect on the global environment is likely the big impact, the place to start opposing it is with biopsychiatry.
Will, hi, so glad you posted this. Just recently, I watched a DVD documentary, “Making a Killing, The Untold Story of Psychotropic Drugging.” Have you by chance seen it? Among (or along with) the horrors mentioned is the fact that psychotropic drugs fuel a $330 billion (with a B) annual psychiatric industry.
I mention this because after watching it I was wondering whom I could send it to, to really get the message out, and to be honest the first person I thought of was Dave. One of my fears is that these people could become so powerful as to be allowed to surreptitiously introduce these types of drugs into of our food. The idea is not as wild as it seems–oh, you probably already know that–because obscure publications have hinted at this in recent years. The possibilities for a kind of universal mind control are endless.
Anyhow, if anyone is interested in the documentary, go to cchr.org. It is published by a group called the Citizens Commission on Human Rights.
On the cover of the DVD is this quote, “Psychiatry is probably the single most destructive force that has affected society within the last sixty years.” Dr. Thomas Szasz, Professor of Psychiatry, Emeritus.
Dave,
I’m really glad you’ve begun this discussion. I agree with you fully. Just tonight I was listening to En Pointe (or is On Point) with Tom Ashcroft, Tthe man Tom was interviewing is the owner of the website called “The Edge.” He said essentially that years ago some futurist predicted that literary and science types would converge on each others’ domains, but actually what’s happened is that the science folks have taken over the literary function of inspiring us as a culture. (I think this is what he said — I was actually vocalizing at the time). I.e. I’m obsolete! And so are you!
This discussion is one that I have been pursuing with my husband — the rationalist, non-theistic scientist — for many years. I hope to get him in on the debate as well, because he’ll have interesting things to say. Maybe it’s because of his tendency to err on the side of scientism that I’ve known of this term for many years, probably 15 or so, maybe even 20. I see the same problem as you do, but from a slightly different angle. People who ascribe to scientism seem to be extremely arrogant about their point of view (as in definition #1 above). They defend this perspective by saying that they are not totalizing, because the scientific method they use defines all knowledge as provisional (i.e. if a better explanation comes along, that new one ousts the old concept). But I would counter that they often make a god of their method, describing it as “the only true way to acquire knowledge about the reality and the nature of things” (as in def. #1 again).
Yes, “the only true way to acquire knowledge about the reality and the nature of things” is very familiar, and that whole discussion revolves around the meaning of the words “true” and “knowledge” etc. and when held between “spiritual” (or poetic) and scientific types the discussion can get completely stymied. But it seems to me that there is a way to bypass the deadlock, which is to go instead to the issue of what we do about what we believe we know. If science provides an ethically neutral load of information, we then have to decide how to use that information for human goals. How do we decide what to do about global warming or pollution, which species to save, how dominant humans should be allowed to be in nature, how big our various kinds of footprints should be: i.e. the values debate. This relates closely to the scientific study of what actually motivates people: we are run by emotions and emotions “know” things differently. It relates also to the fact, easily verifiable from the history of science, that because scientific knowledge is indeed provisional, it often gets things wrong. One generation is assured by scientists that radiation (recall Madame Curie), asbestos, GM foods, cell phone usage or whatever is not dangerous to humans and other living things, and later generations of scientists find they are. Should we go boldly ahead creating technology out of current science, even though we know the science is provisional, which is what capitalist and communist society has generally done, or should science training and ethics not require a cautious approach, so that membership in any professional scientific organization or any college science position, or publication in any peer reviewed magazine would require a kind of Hippocratic oath of scientific humility as regards the application of the science to actual life? If that had happened, would we have had an utterly out of control chemicals industry, genetics industry and so on? If scientists took responsibility for the way their science is used by society and by technology, would they not have called in the poets and spiritual types long ago to help them motivate the populace towards responsible use of the Pandora’s boxes they are opening?
I love this post, it cuts a very broad swathe of understanding (i am intentionally using that figure of speech) and it is as usual not only exceptionally deep and thought-provoking, but actually humble.I also think you have begun to explore in this post an awfully important issue for our times.
in the past Religion and Philosophy kind of were locked in a wrestling embrace with Science flourishing wherever the predominant sages in either field were enlightened rather than reductive. Now we have a predominance of Scientism, and though i have not read the Rabbi’s work it is as usual prescient and an open tent for explorative analysis and healing so we can begin to move more towards Tikkun, each of us in our own way contributing as in this rich forum.
many times in my spiritual journey i questioned what it is that makes a religion uplifting and transcendent, and when this is a path that does so in the time honored and trditional ways, both because of itself and in spite of itself, how so often even after a dark age period, good triumphs…
What i came up to relates to scientism, which i believe is in effect a sort of a religion–or at least serves many of religion’s roles.Scientidm, as opposed to Science, is not, BTW an enlightened pursuit.It is a degrading pursuit, it is reductive and seductive like a pervert’s grooming of children, and every bit as dangerous, IMO.
I think that religions which are rooted in G-d and all that is Good that comes from G-d, are transendent at their core.The people that they attract may fall into the traditional, moderate or progressive groups, as in mainstream Judaism there are Orthodox, Conservative and Reform…but there is place at the table for everyone. And it is a feast of centuries old wisdom, ritual, culture, revelation, and the presence of God in human history and in everyperson’s spiritual journey.
I see that as being the case in many of the religion’s which are not Abrahamic in their roots, but have roots in other expressions of Locve and celebration of the aspects of G-d, who may not be called by a Name, may not be considered Divine, but rather, in some other traditions is conceived as a universal Oneness that as in all religions goes well beyond language to express and to experience.
What these faith paths do have in common is an emphasis on self development as inspired by something greater than self, the self-discipline, maturity and yet childlike state of awe, reverence and wonder that defy limitations of human flavor like culture, gender, color, nationality, ethnicity, socio-economic group what have you…and are rooted in an attribute of G-d or a pursuit of holiness and spiritual development even in Philosphy or Art or Science that clearly are Good.When i say Good, i mean that have aspects of altruism, generosity of spirit, kindness and compassion, mercy and social justice, which is one of the highest forms of mercy, a use of powwer to aid and not oppress, the persistent desire to leave this earth better than one found it, and to be a blessing to its inhabitants.
This is quite brilliant really, the antithesis to reductionism and coercion,,,that all the people who are doing good (and in some religions those who are doing bad) can be a integral part of the pattern of human cloth that becomes a sacred cover for the earth and is made and inspired by G-d but woven by an inestimable number of humans over generations, each of which ahs its duties challenges and revelance to the ultimate nature of the garment.
Now as i see it the thing is, what is the differentiation between those religions and philosophies which further that pursuit, which some have called tikkun, and some have called gaia, or creating the kingdom, and others have called nirvana or…whatever…well to me in accordance with the insight expressed by Dave B. above, there are a very few religions or isms that are rooted in actual evil…and how you can tell the absence of light is their focus on glorifying humans instead of an attribute of G-d; and that they are manipulative and rooted in (not gone astray to get stuck in, but actually ROOTED in) pursuits which elevate the “broker” of these paths to the end all beall of creation and purpose…demonizing otehrs and disrespecting them to the point of objectification…and that the pursuit of these faith paths or phiolophies or sciences or Black Arts require a skills group that demeans, destroys, objectifies, and exploits others, and tries to get the folks on faith paths or engaged in pursuits which bring Tikkun…off their path, and the more good they dom, the more the evil attacks them.
Now because it is beyond the scope of most single humans except perhaps the prophets or saints or other fully developed humans who have a capacity for Love and Truth that is like a beacon, to have any full conception of the role that those who differ from us in substance play in this world’s spiritual growth (like Gollum in Lord of the rings, my favorite book) it is not very helpful from my POV to engage in awhole lot of judegemntalism, also polarizing and distracting.
But also super important not to become so convinced we ahve the answers we exclude those who are on the path to tikkun but we cannot see it readily..because their role is not one we appreciate..so in the Lord of the Rings, there was no dearth of battling between eveikl forces adn good forces, but yet the sparing in mercy of the unarmed Gollum, a wicked and diminished human but nonethless vulnerable resulted in his own greed and addiction catapulting him from the precipice into the pits where he took with him the great instrument of evil that had corrupted the Middle World.
I believe that good people not only understimate evil, we too frequently capitulate to it…and that articles like this above about scientism help us to come together across ideologies to find common ground to combat or LIMIT the evils of these approaches before they become ascendent.
it is a genrational battle and not everyone appreciates a battle metaphor…i am without a doubt however a samurai sort of spiritual being,,,when i read the book Musashi i realized how much my personal spiritual journey has morrored that role,and i have to say agin…it is fine and necessary that if your journey takes yo to a place where you combat oppression and violence in a way that you belive will conquer it, you may also have respect for those of us who know from our paths that your capacity to have security of any kind from which to contribute your thread of non-violence…complements the efforts of those who ensure that evil and its attendent violence doesn’t chew you up, spit you out and prevent you from enculturating anything at all….which is among the precious value of what those who are destroyed by leagues of evil, to which ordinary humans have lent themselves to do heinous acts, like Nazi Germany, left as their sacred legacy.
there are times when force is necessary…but creulty and oppression, coercion and disrespect, humiliation, torture and hate ruin both those in whose hearts they take root, and any society which empowers them…
i so wish that folks who are against violence could understand that president obama is making a valid and valuable and critical stand to stop violence by limiting and containing an ideology which is corruptive, evil, distorting and a major threat …and BTW thank God there are those who are following the samurai path, whose passion for doing so allows and permits them to find beauty in tools for limiting violence…i like guns.
Although some people may have heard of “scientism” only in the last few years, the term has been around for a long time. Huston Smith, for instance, has been polemicizing against it for years. (Daniel Matt, whose piece on kabbalah I read in the online version of Tikkun’s archives, has published a book The Essential Kabbalah to which Smith wrote the introduction.) But the phenomenon has been called by different names. Scientism is especially close to the philosophical movement known as logical positivism (also logical empiricism) which was especially influential among Anglo-American philosophers in the 1930’s and 1940’s, after which it was challenged by ordinary language philosophy and even more or less repudiated by some of its formerly most ardent advocates. (It resurfaced as a methodological approach within the social sciences and academic historiography a few decades later.) The logical positivists famously held that ethical, aesthetic, and religious statements were meaningless, because they could not be the basis for generating empirically testable hypotheses.
It seems to me that the front line of attack against this view is the stand that ethical statements are a meaningful expression of an unavoidable human concern, even though they cannot be translated without remainder into empirically testable hypotheses. Scientific research may be able to demonstrate that global warming is real, that it is anthropogenic, and that, when all its consequences are considered, it is harmful for humans and other living species. But it cannot prove that we *should* do everything in our power to prevent that harm, or even that we *should* care.
Where does religion come into this? I think it comes in whenever people try to provide a rich narrative context for the “shoulds” or the values that guide our lives. These narratives can have empirically verifiable elements, as in Brian Swimme’s and Thomas Berry’s The Universe Story, but they cannot be solely governed by “the facts.”
Well, you said it all there much more succinctly than I am capable of doing. Thank you.
Dear all,
I am very glad to read your heated discussions. Could I make a suggestion ?That is , if any quotations are needed, please mark clearly the citation source including at least the author and the time.It is quite important to help the readers.
Hi Dave,
I’m looking forward hugely to Sarah’s writing, not least because I also graduated from MIT (‘70) where I first learned about spirituality from Huston Smith, who was teaching World Religions there at that time. (Alas, I was too late to take the course with Smith’s predecessor, Aldous Huxley.)
I’d argue that science is about that part of reality that is experimentally quantifiable; religion about that part that can only be spoken of as metaphor. There’s no overlap, (as Stephen Jay Gould wrote they are “nonoverlapping Magisteria”) and while there are invaluable truths in the world’s wisdom traditions, those traditions are maps of reality – not the territories themselves – and fundamentalists of all kinds (Hitchens and Dawkins included) don’t understand the difference.
I think of scientism as the claim that the map of science is the territory of reality: if it doesn’t show up as science, it isn’t real. (There go love, art, and literature….) And the greatest danger of scientism comes from those who are not “real” scientists (Will Nemorensis’ post on biopsychiatry outlines what those dangers in that specific field.)
And I’ll match your lovely opening quote from Lévi-Strauss, with one from Thomas Pynchon: “If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don’t have to worry about the answers”
Peter, I agree strongly with your more general points about scientism. It is particularly dangerous in the biomedical and botech fields right now, where the bad kind of reductionism is rampant. In biopsychiatry, the assumption is that mental states are an epiphenomenon of neurochemical states; but as has been recently pointed out by a number of researchers in cognitive science, we actually understand very little about the qualitative content of consciousness. In biotech, the mechanistic view of genes and proteins seems to be leading to a hubris comparable to that of nuclear engineers in the 1950s, and likely with even more catastrophic results. These mindsets are continually reinforced by the ever-growing role of corporate funding in biological science of all types (see my “William Blake” post below for more on socioeconomic and cultural pressures on the formation not only of science, but of scientists).
On Huston Smith: my son was assigned one of his books about science and religion in eleventh grade at his Catholic high school, and he brought it to me to discuss because he was both annoyed and perplexed by it. I have to say that I shared both emotions, in spades. On the evidence of this book I found Huston to be a shallow, casuistic, and in places downright dishonest thinker. Unfortunately I no longer have the book in question (my son handed it back to his teacher in disgust, the pages dense with angry annotations) so I can’t be ore specific.
This is a comment on Peter’s recent comment about religion and science as non-overlapping magisteria. I agree that religion, or at least religious narratives, could not get started without metaphor. But we must not jump from that to assuming that science can get along without metaphor. As G. Lakoff and M. Johnson show in Philosophy in the Flesh, virtually the only occasions on which we think and speak without metaphor are occasions in which we are describing directly embodied experience (sensorimotor interaction with everyday objects and embodied motion from one place to another on a terrain marked out by such objects). When we “ascend” to a more inclusive level or “descend” to a microscopic or submicroscopic level of description, we make use of metaphor. Talk of subatomic particles, for instance, is parasitic on experience with particles, e.g., of sand or salt; talk of the evolution of the solar system is parasitic upon (pre-Darwinian) uses of “evolution” to describe stage by stage biological development. Lakoff and Nunez show in their Where Mathematics Comes From that even elementary arithmetic is based on metaphor. So the quantification essential to the physical sciences is itself dependent on metaphor.
Great discussion.
Jan,
I think you’re right, and when I said, “I think of scientism as the claim that the map of science is the territory of reality.” I was expressing a similar idea. All maps are metaphors: representation and simplification in a (hopefully) useful way of a more complex reality.
I was thinking of an atheist friend who at Solstice/Christmas/whatever wears a button that says “Axial Tilt: it’s the reason for the season”, as though that were more true than spiritual/ religious explanations. And of course those folks who say that as we know the world wasn’t created in six days, therefore all religion is false.
Thanks for the correction!
Science, religion and mysticism are three different ways of looking. The “way” you look affects what you see.
If one “way” invades or negates another our total “view” of what is, is immeasurably damaged.
Each “way” has its own language. Being tri-lingual is an advantage!
From my teacher, William Blake:
“If it were not for the Poetic or Prophetic character, the Philosophic & Experimental would soon be at the ratio of all things & stand still, unable to do other than repeat the same dull round over again.” –*There Is No Natural Religion*, 1788
Or, more simply:
“What is now prov’d, was once only imagin’d.” –*The Marriage of Heaven and Hell*, 1790
Many working scientists today still have a very poor grasp of what scientific epistemology actually entails. They tend to be inductivists (Baconians) or predictivists (logical positivists, basically). Both these positions are philosophically naive, as critics from Bertrand Russell to Karl Popper have pointed out. I recommend David Deutsch’s excellent book *The Fabric of Reality* for more detail on this. When in dialogue with Deutsch about a dozen years ago in a listserv linked to his website, I said something to the effect that in physics, metaphor was just a prelude to getting to the math. Deutsch, a mathematical physicist (among other achievements, a founder of quantum computing) corrected me sharply, saying the the metaphor, the imaginative gestalt we have of a physical phenomenon, is actually more important than the math, which is really just the filling-in of the idea. This was also Einstein’s view.
I am forced to agree with Dave Belden’s point about the ethical responsibility of scientists with regard to the consequences of the implementation of their work in the form of technology. On the whole, though, I think engineers are guiltier in this regard than researchers or theorists, for obvious reasons. And behind so many of the bad or hasty implementations of technology have been two immense imperatives: political power and financial gain. In my view, the ultimate source of the problem is an economic system that places private (or bureaucratic) gain over the common welfare and which disempowers producers, whether of knowledge or material goods, from control over their products. This was and is as true of so-called “communism” (which I prefer to call state capitalism, since the wage-work relationship is maintained despite the formal change in ownership) as it is of corporate capitalism. These societies shape people as narrowly individualistic and perceptually and emotionally compartmentalized (see, for example, the studies of Robert Jay Lifton). There is no reason to expect scientists to be any more immune to these shaping pressures than the rest of us.
On a more hopeful note: in the context of the global environmental crisis, ecology and climate science are forcing scientists into an awareness not only of the immense social and political importance of their work but of the equally immense ethical responsibility they must now shoulder.
I will have more to say on the relationship of scientific epistemology to other ways of knowing in future posts.