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	<title>Comments on: So you want to be a new atheist</title>
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		<title>By: JustJack</title>
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		<dc:creator>JustJack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure that &quot;atheistic Communism&quot; was a legitimate binary, but I get the point. 

I read the Immanence Frame link and can see glimpses of legitimate criticism of some aspects of &quot;New Atheism&quot; vis-a-vis Dawkins, Hitchens, et al. But by and large it&#039;s just another anti-atheism polemic.  Well written and all but very evangelical in its on right. Especially the final paragraph, wow. Quite a frail conclusion.

There&#039;s entirely too much absolutism going on and the binaristic thing is not helping. 

When I was in religions I saw the same things I see now, but then I saw them as if through a fog and dense cloud cover. Now I see them clearly under a calm sky. I stopped god-calling and started calling-myself-out. I see a lot of that same honesty in spiritual progressives and other religion-invested people. The minor difference is I no longer have a need for a religion to define my identity or a higher power and others seem to need to even if they don&#039;t actually use either.  All fine with me so long as I get some space too; I see you but do you see me?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure that &#8220;atheistic Communism&#8221; was a legitimate binary, but I get the point. </p>
<p>I read the Immanence Frame link and can see glimpses of legitimate criticism of some aspects of &#8220;New Atheism&#8221; vis-a-vis Dawkins, Hitchens, et al. But by and large it&#8217;s just another anti-atheism polemic.  Well written and all but very evangelical in its on right. Especially the final paragraph, wow. Quite a frail conclusion.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s entirely too much absolutism going on and the binaristic thing is not helping. </p>
<p>When I was in religions I saw the same things I see now, but then I saw them as if through a fog and dense cloud cover. Now I see them clearly under a calm sky. I stopped god-calling and started calling-myself-out. I see a lot of that same honesty in spiritual progressives and other religion-invested people. The minor difference is I no longer have a need for a religion to define my identity or a higher power and others seem to need to even if they don&#8217;t actually use either.  All fine with me so long as I get some space too; I see you but do you see me?</p>
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		<title>By: Carol Dworkowski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol Dworkowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neither atheism, nor theism is the problem.  &quot;Sin&quot; or, in psychological rather than theological terminology, narcissistic egoism is the problem. 

Dominated by suffering, fear of death, and insecurity, man came under the power of an instinct for SELF-protection and SELF-preservation. He began to struggle for his OWN survival, at the expense of his neighbor, even if this survival could be only temporary (and therefore illusory), since &quot;death reigned from Adam to Moses, even upon those who did not sin as Adam did&quot; (Rom. 5:14). --Orthodox theologian John Meyendorff

Much blood may have been spilled in the conduct of sectarian religious wars and the persecution of &quot;heretics&quot;; but atheistic Communism racked up a very impressive death toll, also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neither atheism, nor theism is the problem.  &#8220;Sin&#8221; or, in psychological rather than theological terminology, narcissistic egoism is the problem. </p>
<p>Dominated by suffering, fear of death, and insecurity, man came under the power of an instinct for SELF-protection and SELF-preservation. He began to struggle for his OWN survival, at the expense of his neighbor, even if this survival could be only temporary (and therefore illusory), since &#8220;death reigned from Adam to Moses, even upon those who did not sin as Adam did&#8221; (Rom. 5:14). &#8211;Orthodox theologian John Meyendorff</p>
<p>Much blood may have been spilled in the conduct of sectarian religious wars and the persecution of &#8220;heretics&#8221;; but atheistic Communism racked up a very impressive death toll, also.</p>
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		<title>By: Ernest J. Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ernest J. Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ditto, Otto!</description>
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		<title>By: Otto Schiff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Otto Schiff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am an old atheist.
Atheism is not the problem, Theism is.
Atheists don&#039;t start wars or kill for their alleged faith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am an old atheist.<br />
Atheism is not the problem, Theism is.<br />
Atheists don&#8217;t start wars or kill for their alleged faith.</p>
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