Comments on: J Street and the Poet http://www.tikkun.org/tikkundaily/2009/10/20/j-street-and-the-poet/ A Voice for Tikkun Olam (healing the world) Thu, 09 Feb 2012 13:04:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Alas, a blog » Blog Archive » J Street and Poetry and Jewish Politics and Jewish Poets and Jewish Poetics and Holocaust Trivialization and Israel and Palestine and antisemitism and How Can Culture be a Tool for Change if You Won’t Let Cu http://www.tikkun.org/tikkundaily/2009/10/20/j-street-and-the-poet/comment-page-1/#comment-5008 Alas, a blog » Blog Archive » J Street and Poetry and Jewish Politics and Jewish Poets and Jewish Poetics and Holocaust Trivialization and Israel and Palestine and antisemitism and How Can Culture be a Tool for Change if You Won’t Let Cu Mon, 18 Jan 2010 23:21:22 +0000 http://www.tikkun.org/tikkundaily/?p=6045#comment-5008 [...] its clear endorsement of this kind of orthodoxy, something that the criticism leveled by both the left and the right at J Street’s realpolitik has not addressed. Here, for ease of reference, is [...] [...] its clear endorsement of this kind of orthodoxy, something that the criticism leveled by both the left and the right at J Street’s realpolitik has not addressed. Here, for ease of reference, is [...]

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]]> By: joyce smith http://www.tikkun.org/tikkundaily/2009/10/20/j-street-and-the-poet/comment-page-1/#comment-2121 joyce smith Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:41:54 +0000 http://www.tikkun.org/tikkundaily/?p=6045#comment-2121 3rd email i sent to info@jstreet.org, 10/20/09: hello again v'shalom harrison, jeremy ben-ami & j-street~~~ true champions and truth-tellers take necessary risks ~ as do all honest leaders committed to helping create great, necessary change. history bears this out. therefore, please don't exclude proactive participation by rabbi michael lerner at your conference. don't blow an inclusive opportunity for peace and justice, due to fear. rectify your posture toward rabbi lerner, tikkun and the NSP. i'm sorry to know how you've approached this situation, but glad not to be in the dark. why shouldn't we know? my G!d ~ do you even care that rabbi lerner still supports your conference in spite of your futile attempt to keep certain israel-right-or-wrong-ers on board, in part by sacrificing him? schumer is out ~ even without rabbi lerner? what does this tell you? i've been giving j-street the benefit of the doubt, as you've had time to reconsider. i respect, admire and support rabbi lerner, tikkun and NSP. i'd very much like to be able to say the same to you. i still want to believe that you care about real peace and fairness in israel/palestine. chuck's bailing, for example, reaffirms that you are taking some risks! demonstrating love for israel cannot depend on denial of what desperately needs to be improved, and of actual proposals for how, any more than it can be in this country. it's not too late. come out of the closet as another authentic voice for peace and justice. thank you. joyce smith (jew) tucson, az 3rd email i sent to info@jstreet.org, 10/20/09:

hello again v’shalom harrison, jeremy ben-ami & j-street~~~

true champions and truth-tellers take necessary risks ~ as do all honest leaders committed to helping create great, necessary change. history bears this out.

therefore, please don’t exclude proactive participation by rabbi michael lerner at your conference. don’t blow an inclusive opportunity for peace and justice, due to fear.
rectify your posture toward rabbi lerner, tikkun and the NSP. i’m sorry to know how you’ve approached this situation, but glad not to be in the dark. why shouldn’t we know?

my G!d ~ do you even care that rabbi lerner still supports your conference in spite of your futile attempt to keep certain israel-right-or-wrong-ers on board, in part by sacrificing him?
schumer is out ~ even without rabbi lerner? what does this tell you?

i’ve been giving j-street the benefit of the doubt, as you’ve had time to reconsider. i respect, admire and support rabbi lerner, tikkun and NSP. i’d very much like to be able to say the same
to you. i still want to believe that you care about real peace and fairness in israel/palestine. chuck’s bailing, for example, reaffirms that you are taking some risks!

demonstrating love for israel cannot depend on denial of what desperately needs to be improved,
and of actual proposals for how, any more than it can be in this country.

it’s not too late. come out of the closet as another authentic voice for peace and justice.

thank you.
joyce smith (jew)
tucson, az

]]> By: Jack Levy http://www.tikkun.org/tikkundaily/2009/10/20/j-street-and-the-poet/comment-page-1/#comment-2104 Jack Levy Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:08:14 +0000 http://www.tikkun.org/tikkundaily/?p=6045#comment-2104 Dave, I am dismayed at J Street's reaction to Tikkun's participation in their conference. Would that their administration applied the type of inclusion that you have often described. Open dialog is necessary, curiously, and especially when points of view are in sync as they are with both groups. I have known you as a man to not take on ego grudges, which your ongoing support of J Street displays. Dave,
I am dismayed at J Street’s reaction to Tikkun’s participation in their conference.
Would that their administration applied the type of inclusion that you have often described.
Open dialog is necessary, curiously, and especially when points of view are in sync as they are with both groups.
I have known you as a man to not take on ego grudges, which your ongoing support of J Street displays.

]]> By: Dave Belden http://www.tikkun.org/tikkundaily/2009/10/20/j-street-and-the-poet/comment-page-1/#comment-2084 Dave Belden Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:40:11 +0000 http://www.tikkun.org/tikkundaily/?p=6045#comment-2084 We think it is not about our actual policies, but about the fact that standing for these policies for so long when they were unpopular, and speaking up loudly about them, has gained us the reputation of being overly radical, not the kind of people you want on your platform if you are trying to capture the attention of centrists. (Even this year Tikkun took out a full page ad in the New York Times criticizing Israel for the Gaza invasion when other Jewish groups held off.) This is what Josh Healey was talking about in this interview, and I should have linked also to Michael Lerner's editorial about J Street and Tikkun in the current print issue of Tikkun, here: http://www.tikkun.org/article.php/sept_oct_09_editorial2. In that editorial Michael compares this with the way many liberals who turned against the Vietnam War continued to resent the radicals who had opposed the war much earlier: they couldn't forgive them for being so outside the consensus when they had been in it. I think this is a very common human reaction, or maybe only very common among liberals: I'd like to hear of examples involving conservatives so I could get a better handle on it. We think it is not about our actual policies, but about the fact that standing for these policies for so long when they were unpopular, and speaking up loudly about them, has gained us the reputation of being overly radical, not the kind of people you want on your platform if you are trying to capture the attention of centrists. (Even this year Tikkun took out a full page ad in the New York Times criticizing Israel for the Gaza invasion when other Jewish groups held off.) This is what Josh Healey was talking about in this interview, and I should have linked also to Michael Lerner’s editorial about J Street and Tikkun in the current print issue of Tikkun, here: http://www.tikkun.org/article.php/sept_oct_09_editorial2. In that editorial Michael compares this with the way many liberals who turned against the Vietnam War continued to resent the radicals who had opposed the war much earlier: they couldn’t forgive them for being so outside the consensus when they had been in it. I think this is a very common human reaction, or maybe only very common among liberals: I’d like to hear of examples involving conservatives so I could get a better handle on it.

]]> By: Laur http://www.tikkun.org/tikkundaily/2009/10/20/j-street-and-the-poet/comment-page-1/#comment-2077 Laur Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:25:16 +0000 http://www.tikkun.org/tikkundaily/?p=6045#comment-2077 J Street excluded Tikkun/Michael Lerner?! But....why?? You all have consistently put forth a two-state settlement. J Street excluded Tikkun/Michael Lerner?! But….why?? You all have consistently put forth a two-state settlement.

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