<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Building on the Hopeful Aspects of Obama’s Health Care Speech and Helping Him Get Beyond His Internal Contradictions</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.tikkun.org/tikkundaily/2009/09/10/building-on-the-hopeful-aspects-of-obama%e2%80%99s-health-care-speech-and-helping-him-get-beyond-his-internal-contradictions/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.tikkun.org/tikkundaily/2009/09/10/building-on-the-hopeful-aspects-of-obama%e2%80%99s-health-care-speech-and-helping-him-get-beyond-his-internal-contradictions/</link>
	<description>A Voice for Tikkun Olam (healing the world)</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 13:04:30 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jack Kessler</title>
		<link>http://www.tikkun.org/tikkundaily/2009/09/10/building-on-the-hopeful-aspects-of-obama%e2%80%99s-health-care-speech-and-helping-him-get-beyond-his-internal-contradictions/comment-page-1/#comment-1262</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Kessler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 23:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.tikkun.org/tikkundaily/?p=4134#comment-1262</guid>
		<description>The persistent focus on the public option overlooks one of the main points the president made during his address.  There are two sides to the problem.  One is the lack of coverage by 20% or so of the population, which the left is legitimately in arms about.  But obsessing on the minority should not make us blind to the rest of the problem

Another large area of concern is abuses of the insured among the 80% that do have coverage.  The president spoke of an intention to make cancellations for pre-existing condtions illegal.  Which is to say to impose regulation.  

Extending medical insurance to the 20% who don&#039;t have it won&#039;t do them any good at all if the insurance companies can continue to weasel out of providing coverage to those who are insured.

More is required than just universal coverage.  There must be regulation and oversight as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The persistent focus on the public option overlooks one of the main points the president made during his address.  There are two sides to the problem.  One is the lack of coverage by 20% or so of the population, which the left is legitimately in arms about.  But obsessing on the minority should not make us blind to the rest of the problem</p>
<p>Another large area of concern is abuses of the insured among the 80% that do have coverage.  The president spoke of an intention to make cancellations for pre-existing condtions illegal.  Which is to say to impose regulation.  </p>
<p>Extending medical insurance to the 20% who don&#8217;t have it won&#8217;t do them any good at all if the insurance companies can continue to weasel out of providing coverage to those who are insured.</p>
<p>More is required than just universal coverage.  There must be regulation and oversight as well.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: jacksmith</title>
		<link>http://www.tikkun.org/tikkundaily/2009/09/10/building-on-the-hopeful-aspects-of-obama%e2%80%99s-health-care-speech-and-helping-him-get-beyond-his-internal-contradictions/comment-page-1/#comment-1145</link>
		<dc:creator>jacksmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 21:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.tikkun.org/tikkundaily/?p=4134#comment-1145</guid>
		<description>Why A Strong Public Option Is Essential - By jacksmith  -  Working Class

Robert Reich explains the pubic option:  http://bit.ly/19tHF4

It&#039;s not just because more than two thirds of the American people want a single payer health care system. And if they cant have a single payer system 77% of all Americans want a strong government-run public option on day one (86% of democrats, 75% of independents, and 72% republicans). Basically everyone.

It&#039;s not just because according to a new AARP POLL: 86 percent of seniors want universal healthcare security for All, including 93% of Democrats, 87% of Independents, and 78% of Republicans. With 79% of seniors supporting creating a new strong Government-run public option plan, available immediately. Including 89% of Democrats, 80% of Independents, and 61% of Republicans, STUNNING!!

It&#039;s not just because it will lower cost. Because a strong public option will dramatically lower cost for everyone. And dramatically improved the quality of care everyone receives in America and around the World. Rich, middle class, and poor a like.

It&#039;s not just because it will save trillions of dollars and prevent the needless deaths of millions more of YOU, caused by a rush to profit by the DISGRACEFUL, GREED DRIVEN, PRIVATE FOR PROFIT MEDICAL INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX!

It&#039;s not just because every expert in every field, including economist, and Nobel laureates all agree that free market based healthcare systems don&#039;t work. Never have and never will. The US has the only truly free market based healthcare system in the World. And as you all know now, IT IS A DISASTER!

It&#039;s not just because providing or denying medically necessary care for profit motivations is wrong. Because it is WRONG! It&#039;s professionally, ethically, and morally REPUGNANT!, Animalistic, VILE and EVIL.

THE REASON THE PUBLIC OPTION IS ESSENTIAL:

The public option is ESSENTIAL because over 200 million of you are trapped in the forest of the wolves. Which is the forest of the DISGRACEFUL, GREED DRIVEN, PRIVATE FOR PROFIT MEDICAL INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX! With no way out except through needless inhumane suffering, and DEATH. While the wolves tear at your flesh, and rip you limb from lib. Then feast on your lifeless bodies like a dead carcase for transplant parts.

At the most vulnerable times of your lives (when you were sick and hurting), millions of you have had to fight and loose cruel, but heroic battles. Fighting against the big guns of the DISGRACEFUL, GREED DRIVEN, PRIVATE FOR PROFIT MEDICAL INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX! in the forest of the wolves. All because you have no place else to go. You have no other CHOICE!

But the PUBLIC OPTION will give you someplace safe to go. And it will give us someplace safe to take you. The public option will be your refugium (your refuge). Where the wolves cannot get at you when your down, hurting, and vulnerable. Where everyone who needs it can find rest, security, comfort and the care they need. Protected by the BIG GUNS of We The People Of The United States. THE MOST POWERFUL PEOPLE AND COUNTRY ON EARTH.

This is why it is so critical that we do not lead another 50 million vulnerable, uninsured Americans into the forest of the wolves, without the protections of a Strong Government-run public option. We The People Of The United States MUST NOT LET THAT HAPPEN to any more of our fellow Americans. If healthcare reform does not contain a strong public option on day one. YOU MUST! KILL IT. Or you will do far more harm than good. And millions more will die needlessly. Rich, middle class, and poor a like.

To those who would continue to obstruct good and true healthcare reform for the American people, and who seek to trap millions more vulnerable Americans in the forest of the wolves. We will continue to fight you. We are prepared to wage all out war against you, and will eagerly DESTROY! you. Time...is...UP! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED! No Co-op&#039;s! No Triggers!

Healthcare reform can be the GREATEST! Accomplishment of our time and century. A time when future generations may say of us, that we were all, AMERICAS GREATEST GENERATIONS.

BUT WE MUST ACT!

I therefore call on all my fellow Americans and the peoples of the World. To join us in this fight so that we may finish becoming the better America that we aspire to be for everyone.

SPREAD THE WORD!

I have been privileged to be witness as many of you fought, and struggled to take your first breath, and your last breath on this earth. Rich, middle class, and poor a like. Life is precious.

Whatever the cost. WE! MUST SUCCEED.

God Bless You My Fellow Human Beings

jacksmith  -  Working Class

Senator Bernie Sanders on healthcare (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSM8t_cLZgk&amp;feature=player_embedded)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why A Strong Public Option Is Essential &#8211; By jacksmith  &#8211;  Working Class</p>
<p>Robert Reich explains the pubic option:  <a href="http://bit.ly/19tHF4" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/19tHF4</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s not just because more than two thirds of the American people want a single payer health care system. And if they cant have a single payer system 77% of all Americans want a strong government-run public option on day one (86% of democrats, 75% of independents, and 72% republicans). Basically everyone.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not just because according to a new AARP POLL: 86 percent of seniors want universal healthcare security for All, including 93% of Democrats, 87% of Independents, and 78% of Republicans. With 79% of seniors supporting creating a new strong Government-run public option plan, available immediately. Including 89% of Democrats, 80% of Independents, and 61% of Republicans, STUNNING!!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not just because it will lower cost. Because a strong public option will dramatically lower cost for everyone. And dramatically improved the quality of care everyone receives in America and around the World. Rich, middle class, and poor a like.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not just because it will save trillions of dollars and prevent the needless deaths of millions more of YOU, caused by a rush to profit by the DISGRACEFUL, GREED DRIVEN, PRIVATE FOR PROFIT MEDICAL INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not just because every expert in every field, including economist, and Nobel laureates all agree that free market based healthcare systems don&#8217;t work. Never have and never will. The US has the only truly free market based healthcare system in the World. And as you all know now, IT IS A DISASTER!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not just because providing or denying medically necessary care for profit motivations is wrong. Because it is WRONG! It&#8217;s professionally, ethically, and morally REPUGNANT!, Animalistic, VILE and EVIL.</p>
<p>THE REASON THE PUBLIC OPTION IS ESSENTIAL:</p>
<p>The public option is ESSENTIAL because over 200 million of you are trapped in the forest of the wolves. Which is the forest of the DISGRACEFUL, GREED DRIVEN, PRIVATE FOR PROFIT MEDICAL INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX! With no way out except through needless inhumane suffering, and DEATH. While the wolves tear at your flesh, and rip you limb from lib. Then feast on your lifeless bodies like a dead carcase for transplant parts.</p>
<p>At the most vulnerable times of your lives (when you were sick and hurting), millions of you have had to fight and loose cruel, but heroic battles. Fighting against the big guns of the DISGRACEFUL, GREED DRIVEN, PRIVATE FOR PROFIT MEDICAL INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX! in the forest of the wolves. All because you have no place else to go. You have no other CHOICE!</p>
<p>But the PUBLIC OPTION will give you someplace safe to go. And it will give us someplace safe to take you. The public option will be your refugium (your refuge). Where the wolves cannot get at you when your down, hurting, and vulnerable. Where everyone who needs it can find rest, security, comfort and the care they need. Protected by the BIG GUNS of We The People Of The United States. THE MOST POWERFUL PEOPLE AND COUNTRY ON EARTH.</p>
<p>This is why it is so critical that we do not lead another 50 million vulnerable, uninsured Americans into the forest of the wolves, without the protections of a Strong Government-run public option. We The People Of The United States MUST NOT LET THAT HAPPEN to any more of our fellow Americans. If healthcare reform does not contain a strong public option on day one. YOU MUST! KILL IT. Or you will do far more harm than good. And millions more will die needlessly. Rich, middle class, and poor a like.</p>
<p>To those who would continue to obstruct good and true healthcare reform for the American people, and who seek to trap millions more vulnerable Americans in the forest of the wolves. We will continue to fight you. We are prepared to wage all out war against you, and will eagerly DESTROY! you. Time&#8230;is&#8230;UP! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED! No Co-op&#8217;s! No Triggers!</p>
<p>Healthcare reform can be the GREATEST! Accomplishment of our time and century. A time when future generations may say of us, that we were all, AMERICAS GREATEST GENERATIONS.</p>
<p>BUT WE MUST ACT!</p>
<p>I therefore call on all my fellow Americans and the peoples of the World. To join us in this fight so that we may finish becoming the better America that we aspire to be for everyone.</p>
<p>SPREAD THE WORD!</p>
<p>I have been privileged to be witness as many of you fought, and struggled to take your first breath, and your last breath on this earth. Rich, middle class, and poor a like. Life is precious.</p>
<p>Whatever the cost. WE! MUST SUCCEED.</p>
<p>God Bless You My Fellow Human Beings</p>
<p>jacksmith  &#8211;  Working Class</p>
<p>Senator Bernie Sanders on healthcare (<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSM8t_cLZgk&#038;feature=player_embedded" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSM8t_cLZgk&#038;feature=player_embedded</a>)</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: William Barth</title>
		<link>http://www.tikkun.org/tikkundaily/2009/09/10/building-on-the-hopeful-aspects-of-obama%e2%80%99s-health-care-speech-and-helping-him-get-beyond-his-internal-contradictions/comment-page-1/#comment-1141</link>
		<dc:creator>William Barth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 15:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.tikkun.org/tikkundaily/?p=4134#comment-1141</guid>
		<description>Dear Rabb Lerneri -

What do you want from poor old President Obama?   The radical right has targeted this great man, and he is being attacked like no other President in the history of America!  

Right wing, violent, so-called pro-2nd Amendment, militia bring loaded AK 47 rifles to his speeches. These neo-American facists are well organized and funded, in part by the very corporate interests you write about. Witness the congressional town hall attendee&#039;s protesting any health care reform whom are financed by health insurance companies whose net worth is valued at over $80 billion!  No wonder these corporate financed, right wing, &#039;citizen&#039; lobbyists argue against single payer or public option!  It would cost the health insurance corporations billions in profits.

So what do you want from Obama?  Why aren&#039;t millions of Americans taking to the streets and demanding that Congress pass a single-payer --- Medicare for all ---- health care system?

Why dont millions of us march to end the very idea that corporations can make billions of dollars over how private medical treatment is provided?  These corporate criminals actually make their money by denying a sick person medicine!  For example, if they withold Cancer treatment from a sick patient, their profits increase!  If they deny health insurance coverage to a formerly sick person person (with a so-called &#039;pre-existing condition&#039;), they actually make more money than if they provide health insurance coverage! 

No other so-called democracy in the world permits such a system to even exist!  

But you should not attack Obama.  Instead, you should attack the non-involved masses and the un-organized left which is not doing enough to fight for universal heath care!   The country should be paralyzed by mass rallies, protests, prayer, fasting and any other tools the public can use to defeat these corporate criminals who control our public health care.

Obama is an incredible man trying to change the entire world. No other President in our recent history even came close to implementing some kind of health care reform.  Obama is doing it - and doing everything else at the same time. 

We need to learn from the right-wing in America.  They practically deify President Reagan and all his policies. We should do the same for Obama. Tell the world that Obama will pass single payer health insurance if we so-called progressives are willing to get off our couch and do what we are supposed to do - organize the masses and mass rally for a single payer, universal health insurance, medicare for all, in the America.  

We should force Congress to pass such a bill.  If they won&#039;t, then we should recall and impeach every member of this corrupt body called &#039;Congress&#039;- the richest club money can buy - and elect a new Congress that will pass universal health care. President Obama clearly indicated he supports single payer if the state of our corrupted political system would permit such a reform.

Its our job to bring such a single payer, universal health insurance, medicare for all, bill to Obama&#039;s Presidential desk for him to sign. And sign he will.  

Obama is easily the greatest American President of our generation. Support Obama with all your might. The radical-right is doing everything they can to kill this great man - if not politically - than literally!

Peace,
William</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Rabb Lerneri -</p>
<p>What do you want from poor old President Obama?   The radical right has targeted this great man, and he is being attacked like no other President in the history of America!  </p>
<p>Right wing, violent, so-called pro-2nd Amendment, militia bring loaded AK 47 rifles to his speeches. These neo-American facists are well organized and funded, in part by the very corporate interests you write about. Witness the congressional town hall attendee&#8217;s protesting any health care reform whom are financed by health insurance companies whose net worth is valued at over $80 billion!  No wonder these corporate financed, right wing, &#8216;citizen&#8217; lobbyists argue against single payer or public option!  It would cost the health insurance corporations billions in profits.</p>
<p>So what do you want from Obama?  Why aren&#8217;t millions of Americans taking to the streets and demanding that Congress pass a single-payer &#8212; Medicare for all &#8212;- health care system?</p>
<p>Why dont millions of us march to end the very idea that corporations can make billions of dollars over how private medical treatment is provided?  These corporate criminals actually make their money by denying a sick person medicine!  For example, if they withold Cancer treatment from a sick patient, their profits increase!  If they deny health insurance coverage to a formerly sick person person (with a so-called &#8216;pre-existing condition&#8217;), they actually make more money than if they provide health insurance coverage! </p>
<p>No other so-called democracy in the world permits such a system to even exist!  </p>
<p>But you should not attack Obama.  Instead, you should attack the non-involved masses and the un-organized left which is not doing enough to fight for universal heath care!   The country should be paralyzed by mass rallies, protests, prayer, fasting and any other tools the public can use to defeat these corporate criminals who control our public health care.</p>
<p>Obama is an incredible man trying to change the entire world. No other President in our recent history even came close to implementing some kind of health care reform.  Obama is doing it &#8211; and doing everything else at the same time. </p>
<p>We need to learn from the right-wing in America.  They practically deify President Reagan and all his policies. We should do the same for Obama. Tell the world that Obama will pass single payer health insurance if we so-called progressives are willing to get off our couch and do what we are supposed to do &#8211; organize the masses and mass rally for a single payer, universal health insurance, medicare for all, in the America.  </p>
<p>We should force Congress to pass such a bill.  If they won&#8217;t, then we should recall and impeach every member of this corrupt body called &#8216;Congress&#8217;- the richest club money can buy &#8211; and elect a new Congress that will pass universal health care. President Obama clearly indicated he supports single payer if the state of our corrupted political system would permit such a reform.</p>
<p>Its our job to bring such a single payer, universal health insurance, medicare for all, bill to Obama&#8217;s Presidential desk for him to sign. And sign he will.  </p>
<p>Obama is easily the greatest American President of our generation. Support Obama with all your might. The radical-right is doing everything they can to kill this great man &#8211; if not politically &#8211; than literally!</p>
<p>Peace,<br />
William</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Genny G.</title>
		<link>http://www.tikkun.org/tikkundaily/2009/09/10/building-on-the-hopeful-aspects-of-obama%e2%80%99s-health-care-speech-and-helping-him-get-beyond-his-internal-contradictions/comment-page-1/#comment-1140</link>
		<dc:creator>Genny G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.tikkun.org/tikkundaily/?p=4134#comment-1140</guid>
		<description>This is an excellent read that should go far beyond the Tikkun readership...and into Obama&#039;s hands.
It just may be the awakening piece to steer the &quot;Old Bottom Line&quot; ship into the passageway of 
the &quot;New Bottom Line&quot;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an excellent read that should go far beyond the Tikkun readership&#8230;and into Obama&#8217;s hands.<br />
It just may be the awakening piece to steer the &#8220;Old Bottom Line&#8221; ship into the passageway of<br />
the &#8220;New Bottom Line&#8221;!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Lauren Reichelt</title>
		<link>http://www.tikkun.org/tikkundaily/2009/09/10/building-on-the-hopeful-aspects-of-obama%e2%80%99s-health-care-speech-and-helping-him-get-beyond-his-internal-contradictions/comment-page-1/#comment-1138</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren Reichelt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 12:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.tikkun.org/tikkundaily/?p=4134#comment-1138</guid>
		<description>Looks like Rabbi Lerner has been spammed by someone who can&#039;t spell and whose stats are both dubious and poorly cited.

I believe the contradictions in Obama&#039;s speech lie at least partially in the change we are creating in our world. We, through our own actions, are living in a world in transition. We are moving from a capitalist society based on an ideology of social Darwinism to something different. It&#039;s not clear yet what that something different is. The individuals who benefit most from our capitalist/Darwinist weltanschaaung are fighting as hard as they can to prevent the erosion of their advantage.

One individual can&#039;t change the world. But we can through our own habits and behaviors. We can build an alternative economy through volunteerism. We can shop at farmer&#039;s markets. We can continue to support alternative media. We can self publish books. We can continue to demand change. We can share our stories. We can make pilgrimages with like-minded people.

Perception is a product of group practice. Most importantly, as you are already doing, we must not wait for a leader to tell us what to do. We must proactively create the world we want to live in. The leaders will eventually follow. Pilgrimages such as the NSP gathering are an important way to make change happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like Rabbi Lerner has been spammed by someone who can&#8217;t spell and whose stats are both dubious and poorly cited.</p>
<p>I believe the contradictions in Obama&#8217;s speech lie at least partially in the change we are creating in our world. We, through our own actions, are living in a world in transition. We are moving from a capitalist society based on an ideology of social Darwinism to something different. It&#8217;s not clear yet what that something different is. The individuals who benefit most from our capitalist/Darwinist weltanschaaung are fighting as hard as they can to prevent the erosion of their advantage.</p>
<p>One individual can&#8217;t change the world. But we can through our own habits and behaviors. We can build an alternative economy through volunteerism. We can shop at farmer&#8217;s markets. We can continue to support alternative media. We can self publish books. We can continue to demand change. We can share our stories. We can make pilgrimages with like-minded people.</p>
<p>Perception is a product of group practice. Most importantly, as you are already doing, we must not wait for a leader to tell us what to do. We must proactively create the world we want to live in. The leaders will eventually follow. Pilgrimages such as the NSP gathering are an important way to make change happen.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: medsearch</title>
		<link>http://www.tikkun.org/tikkundaily/2009/09/10/building-on-the-hopeful-aspects-of-obama%e2%80%99s-health-care-speech-and-helping-him-get-beyond-his-internal-contradictions/comment-page-1/#comment-1136</link>
		<dc:creator>medsearch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 02:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.tikkun.org/tikkundaily/?p=4134#comment-1136</guid>
		<description>Obamacare will cost this nation over 500,000 jobs!  Mostly high-paying ones....lost forever!  Will a 15% unemployment rate get his attention?  This president is an amateur, and the Peter-principle has set in!

In my industry, medical device sales, he has already caused companys to downsize over 20,000 medical sales reps.  It will get worse!  Learn more about the impact of Obamacare on jobs in medical sales at http://www.gorillamedicalsales.com/blog</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obamacare will cost this nation over 500,000 jobs!  Mostly high-paying ones&#8230;.lost forever!  Will a 15% unemployment rate get his attention?  This president is an amateur, and the Peter-principle has set in!</p>
<p>In my industry, medical device sales, he has already caused companys to downsize over 20,000 medical sales reps.  It will get worse!  Learn more about the impact of Obamacare on jobs in medical sales at <a href="http://www.gorillamedicalsales.com/blog" rel="nofollow">http://www.gorillamedicalsales.com/blog</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
<!-- This Quick Cache file was built for (  www.tikkun.org/tikkundaily/2009/09/10/building-on-the-hopeful-aspects-of-obama%e2%80%99s-health-care-speech-and-helping-him-get-beyond-his-internal-contradictions/feed/ ) in 0.80114 seconds, on Feb 9th, 2012 at 10:39 pm UTC. -->
<!-- This Quick Cache file will automatically expire ( and be re-built automatically ) on Feb 9th, 2012 at 11:19 pm UTC -->
